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ajarn
Joined: 15 Mar 2003 Posts: 53
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:30 pm Post subject: Who takes these kind of jobs? |
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Recently I saw this job advertised on gaijinpot.
Salary: 300,000 yen per month
Requirements: Must currently reside in Japan
more than one-year teaching experience in Japan
university degree
proper visa
Description of position: Teaching company classes in Aego, Saitama starting in Jan 05'. One-year contract with fixed monthly salary and a completion bonus.
There is not a lot of information about the actual job, which always sounds alarm bells, but out of interest I emailed an application in. I received a reply back the same day. I have cut and pasted it word for word.
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Dear Mr. XXXXX
Thank you for interest in the Ageo position advertised in GaijinPot.
We are in need of an English instructor to work on-site full-time at one of our clients, starting
January 6th and lasting the entire year. The conditions are strict, and we cannot accommodate
any changes in the schedule. Some other things to consider:
・work is mandatory on national holidays
・there are no personal days off allowed, other than 5 days' sick leave
・there is a bonus of \300,000 for completing the contract in good standing, and a further incentive bonus of \50,000
if you do not take time off beyond the sick leave allowance
・dormitory accommodation is available for \30,900/month, including utilities
If you are still interested, please call Ms. XXXX at XXXX by Monday, the 29th (except Friday).
We look forward to hearing from you.
XXX |
I have a few questions; firstly who would work under such conditions? Secondly, can a contract with such conditions even be legal?
Thirdly if it is illegal is there a government department, agency or other legal body that this corporation can be reported to?
I understand that for someone slaving away at (insert the name of any sweatshop operation you like here eg. NOVA, Berlitz etc.) for 250,000 per month that the remuneration this company is offering may seem very attractive (329,000 per month if you include the bonuses - assuming that you get them). However to make you work all public holidays and give you absolutely no personal leave is ludicrous. Or am I simply out of touch with the current trends in the Japanese labour market? |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Who takes these kind of jobs? |
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ajarn wrote: |
I have a few questions; firstly who would work under such conditions? Secondly, can a contract with such conditions even be legal?
Thirdly if it is illegal is there a government department, agency or other legal body that this corporation can be reported to?
I understand that for someone slaving away at (insert the name of any sweatshop operation you like here eg. NOVA, Berlitz etc.) for 250,000 per month that the remuneration this company is offering may seem very attractive (329,000 per month if you include the bonuses - assuming that you get them). However to make you work all public holidays and give you absolutely no personal leave is ludicrous. Or am I simply out of touch with the current trends in the Japanese labour market? |
What they are doing is probably illegal. There is no law saying that you can take national holidays off (who will you teach if there is no one at work?) but by law they are required to give you ten days paid holiday after 6 months, 11 days after one year and 12 days after 2 years. You can teach 40 hours over 6 days with at least one day off a week.
These are separate from national holidays and Golden Week, O-Bon.
You could contact the Labor Standards Office. The union is another possibility but the complaint has to come from an employee who is a member of the union.
What are the laws about sick days, days off, and national holidays in Japan?
Regarding sick days and national holidays there is no law (though having national holidays off is the norm), and you must have at least one day off per week (Article 35).
Your company is required by law to offer you a set number of flexible holidays based on the number of years service (days to be used at your discretion). Part timers are also covered by this law and their paid holidays are based on the number of days worked per week and the length of service (Article 39). The paid holidays owed to you by your company are separate from the set holidays offered by the company (Obon, New Years). In most cases, days set by the company cannot be subtracted from your own personal holidays but there are exceptions (look at the section on workers' representative). |
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Nismo

Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 520
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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The pay matches the terms - harsh terms, great pay. The "dormitory" sounds a bit sketch, but $300/month + free utilities is nice. You work for what you earn, and the job looks demanding. That position would best suit someone very ambitous. |
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chi-chi-
Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 194 Location: In la-la land
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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I've got better.
Dear ZZZ,
Unfortunately we are not able to offer you visa sponsorship. Because
we can offer you a class or two a week and that is not enough to
offer anyone visa sponsorship. We believe it is absolutely all right
to work part-time for a short time though you don't have a working
visa.
If you want to stay here and work longer, you need an appropriate
visa. I think you can work part-time for us until you get such a visa.
Sincerely,
ZZZ
AND
Dear ZZZ,
We are sorry to inform you that we are unable to offer you a position
at
this time, since we ask for at least one year experience of teaching
conversational English to Japanese people at a language school or a
company.
Sincerely,
ZZZ
(Even though I have two years experience teaching in other countries, it didn't matter because I did not have experience at that time teaching to JAPANESE learners.
I have a lot more and actually have the names of the schools, too. |
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buffy
Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 57
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like you would be based full time in a company working the same hours as the other company workers. If it is a factory, people often work on the nat'l holidays, but then get substitute days off to make up for doing that. Car companies and those providing parts for them often do that.. |
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bearcat
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 367
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Actually the pay isnt that great. If you are working so many extra days that are normally afforded to others here as national holidays, you are actually getting paid perhaps less overall. Take the number of days of an eikaiwa job like nova for the total year and divide it into the pay for the total year. Do the same with this job and see how it comes out.
Saying you have no national holidays and only 5 personal days off seems strange because even factory jobs here give days off for obon and new years and even some give time around golden week as well.
But of course your work load maybe light... or it may be really tough. Who knows. |
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Iwantmyrightsnow
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 202
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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As it is a probably some kind of factory situation I would say there are other set holidays and that is why only the five sick (flexi) days are being given.
The 5 day sick/holidays aren't necessarily illegal. While the law gives 10 in the first year, it is possible for the company to set up to half of these (such as new year) if they have the approval of the workers' representative (usually a company stooge). |
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