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canuck
Joined: 11 May 2003
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Location: Japan
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There are minorities teaching, however it seems like, percentage-wise, most people are blue-eyed blondes and red-heads, with very pale skin.
A person with red hair, blue eyes on a working holiday visa will have lengthier interviews and a much easier time finding a job then a minority, or a perceived minority with a college degree. And that's a fact. |
What a load of garbage. Over the world red-heads are not as common as other hair types. Also, people with blue eyes do not make the majority either. To say that there is a super high concentration of such people in Japan is just a false statement. That is a very uneducated, off the cuff comment with no scientific nor common sense backing behind it. |
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AgentMulderUK
Joined: 22 Sep 2003
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Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| chi-chi- wrote: |
There are minorities teaching, however it seems like, percentage-wise, most people are blue-eyed blondes and red-heads, with very pale skin.
A person with red hair, blue eyes on a working holiday visa will have lengthier interviews and a much easier time finding a job then a minority, or a perceived minority with a college degree. And that's a fact. |
Oh well done chi-chi, another post with evidence as solid as liquidised diarrhea and all the relevance of a chocolate hedgehog. |
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homersimpson
Joined: 14 Feb 2003
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Location: Kagoshima
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:00 am Post subject: |
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chi-chi- wrote:
There are minorities teaching, however it seems like, percentage-wise, most people are blue-eyed blondes and red-heads, with very pale skin.
A person with red hair, blue eyes on a working holiday visa will have lengthier interviews and a much easier time finding a job then a minority, or a perceived minority with a college degree. And that's a fact. |
My guess is you'd find more of "those" people, (females) working in hostess bars and the like and not teaching.  |
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king kakipi
Joined: 16 Feb 2004
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Location: Australia
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| A person with red hair, blue eyes on a working holiday visa will have lengthier interviews and a much easier time finding a job then a minority |
Err, chi-chi, a person with red hair and blue eyes WOULD be a minority, no?! 
Once again, your posts baffle me; but once again, I am not going to loose any sleep trying to work them out............. |
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shuize
Joined: 04 Sep 2004
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Wait. You mean that "minorities" in America are not actually "minorities" everywhere?
Oh my. Now I'm really confused. How will my simple PC conditioned mind ever cope? I haven't faced such a delima since Haitians living in the United States told me they weren't "African." I mean, just think of it, when trying to label them, I just might have to call them "black" or, worse yet, "Haitian."
The implications of this new idea are truly frightening. How in the world can "minorities" overseas ever manage if they can't blame all their problems on the "oppression" of the majority? Could this mean that people in other countries, regardless of their race or ethnicity, actually have to take responsibility for their own actions? No. It can't be. That's just too radical a possibility to contemplate. |
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Sadken
Joined: 11 Aug 2004
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| Personally, I hate everyone. |
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chi-chi-
Joined: 17 Jul 2004
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Location: In la-la land
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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I love everyone, personally.
Group hug?
Being on this board makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, crazy-like....
AAAAHHH
Chi |
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nawlinsgurl
Joined: 01 May 2004
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Location: Kanagawa and feeling Ok....
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Ok so I didn't mean to spaw an arguement and then just disappear. I was just stating a point and hope I didn't offend anyone  |
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Travel Zen
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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nawlinsgurl (NewOrleans? nice.)
I'm headed in that direction, and i've heard the same thing.
What's shocking is the fact that we (blacks and whites) are in a new country and environment, but the same nonsense of hate continues, with the native poeple of these new environments looking on and shaking their heads.
Not everyone is racist, but some carry the virus with them, making all foreigners look foolish. 
If you see or hear this type of garbage, please speak up. To be silent doesn't help.
My two cents. |
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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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Location: Japan
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nawlinsgurl (NewOrleans? nice.)
I'm headed in that direction, and i've heard the same thing.
What's shocking is the fact that we (blacks and whites) are in a new country and environment, but the same nonsense of hate continues, with the native poeple of these new environments looking on and shaking their heads.
Not everyone is racist, but some carry the virus with them, making all foreigners look foolish. |
What's shocking is someone just two weeks into a first stay in Japan making a sweeping, completely inappropriate and just plain stupid generalization about all foreigners in the country. Even more shocking, though, are the posts from overseas claiming to be shocked at the 'reality' this person claims to describe.
I'm mixed raced--look Hispanic--and yet, in my 10 years in Japan, after meeting literally hundreds of Japan-based foreigners, I must say I never had a problem with racism from other foreigners. Sure, I met some arrogant, ignorant, selfish SOBs--and yeah, I'm sure they disliked me too. However, to ascribe such personality differences to a discriminatory "virus"--especially after just two weeks in the country--is simply bizarre.
On the other hand, I did occasionally suffer discrimination at the hands of the Japanese. One of the most memorable incidents occurred about 6 years ago (I believe it was discussed on ISSHO), when myself and a friend were almost arrested for sitting and talking in a public park at about 3 p.m. on a Sunday afternoon. Ostensibly, a neighbor had called saying that we were committing "suspicious activities;" also, the police mentioned a series of crimes in the area which they were "sure" were committed "by either Brazilians or Iranians" (apparently, they'd thought both of us were of those nationalities). We were released only after I showed them my university faculty card--the fact that I was a jokyouju at a national university freaked the cops out just enough to let us go.
The ultimate irony of the whole thing? The park was a so-called "Peace Park" ostensibly dedicated to "international understanding...."  |
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azarashi sushi
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: Shinjuku
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What's shocking is someone just two weeks into a first stay in Japan making a sweeping, completely inappropriate and just plain stupid generalization about all foreigners in the country. Even more shocking, though, are the posts from overseas claiming to be shocked at the 'reality' this person claims to describe.
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Well said takibansei!
Unfortunately racism and prejudice is a sad reality of the world these days. However there is nothing special in the water here that makes people any more or less racist than they otherwise would be.
I've never done a survey, but in my experience I would say the vast majority or foreigners here are not racist or prejudiced. And certainly, I've never experienced any.
If you are focussing on the negative all the time, chances are, that's what you'll find. We create our own reality.
To the OP... Did these people specifically make racist remarks? It's possible they just don't like your personality... Nothing to do with skin colour. |
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AgentMulderUK
Joined: 22 Sep 2003
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Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)
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| Superb post taikibansei, as always. A enjoyable read. You should write a book, mate. |
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Travel Zen
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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Why are you kissing takibansei's a$$ ?
He's just paraphrasing what we have been saying. That some people are racist.
This is a fact. Wherever you go.
What's shocking is the fact that you create the reality that we are putting down all foreigners. |
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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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Location: Japan
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What's shocking is that literacy levels in Canada seem to be as low as those in the States. Here's the OP's original comment:
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| Ok I have been in japan now for nearly two weeks and have noticed a strange trend. It seems as though a lot of foreigners dislike minorities. By minorities I mean the Blacks, Hispanics, and others. While the Japanese don't seem to mind, it seems as though British and Americans do. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just in my tiny area of Japan? |
Not some, but a lot--after all of two weeks in the country.
And you're sitting there, writing in, kissing her a$$ saying, basically, "Yeah, I've never been to Japan, and I know you've only been there two weeks, but what you're saying about Japan is completely true." How the h*ll would either of you know?
Are there racist foreigners in Japan? Probably--though I've never had a problem. And frankly, unless you're in Tokyo (which neither she nor you are), the only way you'd meet other foreigners outside of work is to go looking for them. Which makes the OP's original post even more absurd--what happened...she met a guy at a bar that wouldn't go home with her?
Foreigners make up just 1% of the population here. I used to go weeks without talking to another foreigner...outside of the one foreign colleague at the university I worked at. Given this reality, I just don't get how either she nor you can be here making blanket statements about a lot of foreigners in Japan. How many Japan-based foreigners have either of you actually met?
I mean, it'd be like me saying that all Canadians are illiterate because they respond to posts they neither read nor understand...when I'd really be basing it just on a single kissa$$. Or the both of you claiming that the Japanese are never discriminatory based on her two weeks and your watching The Last Samurai fifteen or so times. Oh wait, you did the latter as well...my bad.  |
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nawlinsgurl
Joined: 01 May 2004
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Location: Kanagawa and feeling Ok....
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Dear God!
I never meant to spawn a debate over this. It was just an observation that has occured in three different areas of Japan that I have been in.
I DO know that racism and prejudice exist everywhere, and I have come to accept that.
But you begin to wonder when you meet two British people who tell you (straight forward, totally sober, and this is their first time meeting you) "We never want to go to America, there is no diversity and the people have no culture." To your face, as an American.
Sure I may hate George W, but I do like a lot of the people in my country and I feel as though we are an extremely diverse nation. I felt that was extremely rude.
Then to hear of a teacher telling a Japanese student to say "What's up my nigga?" (who asked for "slang" words to use on his trip to America) I was incredibly offended. He could have taught the student "Get Jiggy" or "Krunk", not a phrase like that. Obviously racist.
Like I said earlier, these situations are just something I have noticed. Maybe it is an issue, maybe not. But I wanted feedback and I got it.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but I'm just being real.  |
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