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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry--didn't realize that you were an expert in the affairs of the Central African Republic.
If you believe the lunacy you just wrote, it's time for you to consider moving to another planet in the solar system--where I am sure you will have no trouble adapting. |
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matttheboy

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 854 Location: Valparaiso, Chile
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't try to get chummy with the moonraven. |
Wow, now you're really showing your true colours. Only meglomaniacs refer to themselves in the third person. You truly are a piece of...work. |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| No, but my sense of humor--as well as everything else--is senior to you in all respects. |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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For those of you for whom frivolity and pimples are not the end-all and be-all: Who has gotten hold of a complete copy of John Perkins' CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HITMAN?
I first read a review in yesterday's La Jornada here in Mexico. Today am skimming around in the web trying to get more excerpts. Apparently pieces will be forthcoming on the Executive Intelligence Review site, but here is a bit of commentary about the Vulcan apparatus (of which Condeleezza Rice, soon to be new US Secretary of State is a part):
"The Perkins book recounts the author's decades-long career as a self-described "economic hitman" ("EHM"), working through multinational corporate cover, on behalf of international financier circles, to bankrupt and loot the key nations of the developing sector, by saddling them with unpayable foreign debts, and grabbing control of their strategic raw materials wealth. Much of this was done through LaRouche's longstanding adversaries at the International Monetary Fund and World Bank. Indeed, LaRouche and associates have identified this modus operandi, in published locations, over many decades as "bankers' arithmetic."
As Perkins has explained repeatedly, 9/11 drove him to break a long silence, because he was now convinced he must expose this apparatus behind the "economic hitmen."
As Perkins reported in a Nov. 11 interview with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now, "When the economic hitmen fail in this scenario, the next step is what we call the jackals ... [who] come in and try to foment a coup or revolution. If that doesn't work, they perform assassinations, or try to."
During his own career as an "economic hitman," employed by the New England engineering firm Chas. T. Main, Inc., Perkins reports that he saw two heads of state, who tried to defend the interests of their own people against the vultures of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank, assassinated in fiery plane crashes: Panama's chief of state Omar Torrijos and Ecuador's President Jaime Roldos.
Perkins named the former Bechtel executive, Secretary of State, and creator of Condoleezza Rice's "Vulcan" neo-con apparatus, George Shultz, as a pivotal player in the apparatus into which Perkins was recruited for his role as an economic hitman. It is that network associated with Shultz and others, which Perkins has now come forward to expose. .."
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It may or may not be a coincidence that Danilo Anderson was blown to bits 2 days after Rice's nomination. The death of Anderson might be a specific symptom of the new hardline to be taken by the State Department. Or it may be a general symptom of the dynamics at work in the world now. |
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you forgot Poland

Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 13 Location: AB, Canada
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| Someone needs to get [email protected] |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| If you believe the lunacy you just wrote, it's time for you to consider moving to another planet in the solar system--where I am sure you will have no trouble adapting. |
No, see, it was my opinion. If you think it is lunacy that is your opinion. Opinions are good, right? And the world would be a rather boring place if everyone thought as you do, my dear moonraven.
I'm not trying to be chummy with you; in fact, I think I'm falling for you from afar. |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Unfortunately, you have the currently popular habit of basing your opinions on zero information. Language drives culture, and the grammar of a language creates the way its speakers see the world around them. |
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you forgot Poland

Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 13 Location: AB, Canada
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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In order to understand a country and its culture, you need to know its language.
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I know you've heard of non-verbal communication, so I won't ask. Try your argument on someone who makes a career of other forms of communication. You can also learn a lot by observing a culture and, most importantly, keeping an open mind. Also, be aware that any time you spend learning a language in a classroom or listening to audio tapes could be well spent in other ways. This is especially true of countries where the majority of the citizens speak basic English...
I'm sorry for jumping in, I won't post again on this L.A. forum, I just came across it and wanted to give my two cents.
Cheers! |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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I think you missed the point.
Observing a culture is not the same as understanding it.
Since when does the mere use of hand signals allow you to truly communicate in another culture? If that were the case, everybody who contributes to this forum would be out of a job!
At no point did I recommend studying languages in the classroom, BTW. I have never had a single Spanish class, yet I have lived for nearly 13 years in Latin America, have written extensively in Spanish, read a book a day in Spanish, teach courses in Spanish at the university, give conferences in Spanish, etc. |
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