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reddevil79
Joined: 19 Jul 2004
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Location: Neither here nor there
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| Well said Moonraven, couldn't agree more! It doesn't apply just to Americans either, I can think of a number of people who would say the same about us Brits. Summer on the Costa del Sol in Spain,"Arrgh!", somewhere to be avoided if it can be helped... |
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M@tt
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: here and there
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:54 am Post subject: Other options |
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2. I avoid places that are over-run with gringos because--except for VERY few exceptions--they simply do not know how to behave properly in other cultural settings. Typically, they present themselves as described by ls650--or worse, especially the ones who think Mexico is only a place to get falling down drunk and chase women/men. I don't like to be around folks like that--which is one of the reasons I left the US almost 13 years ago.
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Okay, I agree with point 1 (not comment about point 3), but here's a good example of what I mentioned at the end of my previous post. In Mexico you will also find people out to get drunk (although more privately than in the US), behaving badly in public, and certainly chasing men/women/both. You just can't escape that stuff by going to Mexico and surrounding yourself with mexicans. In fact, I was directly exposed to a lot more "bad behavior" by mexicans than I had ever been in the US, both in small towns and big cities. This is not to say there aren't many wonderful mexicans out there too. I also disagree that VERY few gringos behave well, because most of the foreigners I saw were behaving properly (respectfully). It was much worse when I travelled in Europe (from N.Americans and Australians).
I think if you avoid tourist hotspots like Acapulco, Cancun, etc., and known retiree enclaves like Lake Chapala and San Miguel de Allende, you won't be subjected to much of the stuff people are complaining about. Also, within a city, you can avoid places that you think lots of obnoxious people would congregate, like all bars, nightclubs, sporting events, outdoor markets, park benches, and anywhere people are supposed to form a line.
Getting back to the original topic, you said you're looking for a really great city to spend a year in. Why this particular list? There are other great cities in Mexico, like Queretaro, and, umm...
Somebody help me out here, I know there are more! |
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madrid26
Joined: 11 Nov 2004
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Location: Portland, OR USA
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: Why this list |
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| Getting back to the original topic, you said that you're looking for a really great city to spend a year in. Why this particular list? |
Thanks for asking. Nothing too scientific, but I'm considering things like:
ambience, climate, architecture, size I lived in Guanajuato in '97 and loved it. I want to try a new place, maybe bigger, with colonial charm plus modern aspects.
My goal is, of course, to make a living. I feel I should go where there are schools. I'm a newbie so I'm ignorant, but my semi-educated guess is that there are more language schools in larger cities. It might be great to live on the beach, but are there esl jobs in Puerto Escondido, for example?
I want to travel within Mexico, so I want to avoid geographical extremes. It's a big place. The cities on my short list are fairly centrally located.
I'm reading about different cities online and in my "Lonely Planet Mexico" guidebook. And, I'm on Dave's ESL to get opinions and ideas from folks who are doing what I want to do. Are you in Veracruz? How is it? Any other cities you like/dislike?
Let me know,
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| There just might be a job in Puerto Escondido--at Universidad del Mar--and you'll make more money than you will in 90% of the other ESL jobs in Mexico. Check the website. |
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lozwich
Joined: 25 May 2003
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Moonraven, I agree with you about the job at Puerto Escondido being a good one, but its not really centrally located in Mexico.
Madrid26, is it possible that you could travel around a bit and find a place you like before getting a job? That way you're living somewhere you want to, which always makes life a lot more pleasant, even if your job is a bit lacking in perks.
Have a good day,
Lozwich. |
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MixtecaMike
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Location: Guatebad
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Just for this once, I'll disagree with Lozza.
I think if you have a crappy job it will ruin the best part of the world for you. You won't be able to enjoy where you live because you have no money or because you are working like a (whatever) for an evil boss.
A nice job can keep you in a very mediocre place and you can save enough for trips to nice places during your time off. A decent job will give you a few weeks a year free, so that's time to visit a few places.
I had a nice job in a fairly uninspiring part of Mexico and stayed there for over two years, and despite the mistaken impression certain lunar beasts have I would recommend that particular job to any decent teacher. |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Let's back off biting my heels, okay? I simply answered the OP's question about the existence of jobs in Puerto Escondido. |
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Luder
Joined: 10 Jul 2004
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| Quer�taro would be a great place. Morelia too. |
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Flo
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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| I know of at least one job in Puebla. If anyone is interested PM me. It is at a reputable bilingual school and would be teaching English grammar and possible literature. |
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leslie
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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Bye
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004
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| Interesting. I am an asthmatic and have lived under that volcano for close to 13 years without any ill effects. One man's meat is another man's poison? |
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MixtecaMike
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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Location: Guatebad
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| Interesting. I am an asthmatic |
At last we have something in common.  |
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chicagogirl
Joined: 24 Mar 2004
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Location: Chicago, IL
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject: Currently living in Puebla |
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Hello,
I have been living in Puebla since August and I have to aggree with an earlier description,...the one about it being cold (for Mexico, i am from Chicago and appreciate the spring like weather), rather boring, very spanish yes, and not much to do after nine...I think that is a fairly accurate description.
If you are young and like to go to discos then there is a lot to do in the evening..I have found it difficult to meet people (other then other foriegners) and i have been trying. I think the job is important and if you have the luxury to travel first then do so.
I am starting a good job here in January so i will stay, but I think it depends on what you are looking for and how you want to spend your free time. I actually really like Cuernavaca, its central location, and don't mind so many grinos..that would be my reccomendation.
Feel free to email me if you have questions about Puebla or being here in general. I am going to Puerto Escondido for the holidays so I wont be back here until January.
Good Luck, Christina
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Marimar
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Location: California
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Hi, Marimar here...I just joined this forum today.  I lived in Puebla about twenty years ago while studying at the Universidad de Las Americas, and I also visited it more recently, about four years ago. I felt a lot different when I was there this last time. It seemed to have improved, maybe it is me that is different? It is true that it is cold in the winter and the people tend to be very conservative. However, the architecture is beautiful, the view of the Popo and the Izta volcanos in the morning and at sunset is incredible, and Puebla is a city with a lot of history. I used to love going downtown and just sitting in the cathedral and meditating on life...and feeling like I was in Europe somewhere...that's something I miss a lot now that I am back in the U.S.
Every place/country will have things you love and hate. Sometimes I would like to invent my own country for half Mexicans/half Gringas like me. Good luck with your decision!  |
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madrid26
Joined: 11 Nov 2004
Posts: 7
Location: Portland, OR USA
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject: in gdl |
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thx--
it turned out that i got a job offer here in guadalajara before i finished my tefl cert program, and i took it.
so, here i am in zapopan. definite pros and cons, but i'm happy with my choice for now.
i would love to visit puebla, and many other places.
adios |
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