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mrlg



Joined: 14 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:37 am    Post subject: Bulls*it or not? Reply with quote

I got a mail from someone saying that getting a decent job 15 dollars an hour in Vietnam is so easy most people already in Vietnam are desperate to have everyone think Vietnam is a big no-no so that they can continue having all the jobs for themselves.
I hope I'm wrong. Tell me people aren't that selfish...
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Paul John



Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I got a mail from someone saying that getting a decent job 15 dollars an hour in Vietnam is so easy most people already in Vietnam are desperate to have everyone think Vietnam is a big no-no so that they can continue having all the jobs for themselves.
I hope I'm wrong. Tell me people aren't that selfish...


Yes. We are. (*grin*)

Seriuosly, though. Fifteen-dollar-per-hour jobs are around but they aren't all that plentiful. If you're an experienced teacher with the right qualifications they aren't too hard to find. Most jobs here are in the $10-14 range.

If you check out the Job Information Journal, you'll see that there are as many positive comments as there are negative comments. With all the negative comments there's more than a grain of truth. Even Albert's comments, as ignorant as they are, are partly true. Vietnam isn't for everyone. If you're will to tolerate the bad points and enjoy the good points it's a pretty good place to work. (Hint: Vietnamese* try rip everyone off, not just you.. It's just business, not personal so don't take it that way.)

* This is, of course, a generality.
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sigmoid



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, there is money to be made in Vietnam in that range of pay. But at this point the market is still expanding with new schools opening up nationwide. And as PJ points out above, living in Vietnam, especially HCM City is challenging and so many people leave within a year. So there is not much danger of teacher saturation yet.

If you want to give it a shot come over after Tet in early Feb and see for yourself.
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mrlg



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see...and how easy is it to teach privates in vietnam? does it even pay off?
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jibbs



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know some people making pretty good money from private tutoring. I guess most would charge somewhere around 17-20 bucks an hour. I think most schools will pay 12-13 an hour, but not so many will pay more unless you are there perhaps a year or more.

I found it tough to find enough work actually. So many places offer you just 4-8 hours per week. So you might need to work 3 or 4 jobs or get some privates. It could be hard to make a good schedule. You might need to commute to places far apart. You might need to work mornings and evenings, as there doesn't seem to be a lot of afternoon work. And you might need to work on Saturdays and Sundays, often morning classes with kids, but maybe not hard to teach. Anyway, this has been my experience, and I found it too tiring and frustrating.
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Mr_snafu



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Bulls*it or not? Reply with quote

mrlg wrote:
I got a mail from someone saying that getting a decent job 15 dollars an hour in Vietnam is so easy most people already in Vietnam are desperate to have everyone think Vietnam is a big no-no so that they can continue having all the jobs for themselves.
I hope I'm wrong. Tell me people aren't that selfish...


Can you rephrase you question so I can understand it.

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.
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sigmoid



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you might need to work 3 or 4 jobs or get some privates. It could be hard to make a good schedule. You might need to commute to places far apart. You might need to work mornings and evenings, as there doesn't seem to be a lot of afternoon work. And you might need to work on Saturdays and Sundays, often morning classes with kids,


Yes, this is definitely one of the challenging things about teaching in HCMC. Work schedules are 6 or even 7 days a week and usually change from week to week. Even if you work for only one school they will usually send you from branch to branch during the day.
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Micro67



Joined: 29 May 2003
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Location: HCMC, Vietnam

PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:30 am    Post subject: Picking and Choosing Reply with quote

I agree that the work schedules can be inconsistant and, at some places, 6 or 7 days, but I found that I could pick and choose classes so that I could get weekends off or whatever. It means working at several different places, but that has payoffs too; no one place has too much influence over you, you have several paydays a month and things change around a lot.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:47 am    Post subject: Re: Bulls*it or not? Reply with quote

Mr_snafu wrote:
mrlg wrote:
I got a mail from someone saying that getting a decent job 15 dollars an hour in Vietnam is so easy most people already in Vietnam are desperate to have everyone think Vietnam is a big no-no so that they can continue having all the jobs for themselves.
I hope I'm wrong. Tell me people aren't that selfish...


Can you rephrase you question so I can understand it.

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.


That's odd.

Everyone else seemed to understand it.

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