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Sherri



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my Mac ibook in Tokyo. The beauty of a mac is that they ALL have both English and Japanese operating systems already installed so that problem is solved. There is an English support line you can call when you need help. If it breaks down, then they will come to your house and pick it up, fix it and deliver it back to your house. If it's under warranty then it is free. I don't know why anyone would bother with a PC.
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh.. I sense a Mac vs. PC pi$$ing war... Smile But I like both. Thanks for the info on the Mac guys. Same cost for an iBook as a PC notebook? Bilingual OS? Dang. What else do I need? Maybe my next purchase (as far off as it may be) will be just that...
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Nismo



Joined: 27 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't buy an iBook - they are crap. If you are going to buy a mac, get a Powerbook.
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh... But that's where we start getting into some more serious coin.... Smile
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nolefan



Joined: 14 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just a few corrections here:

all Macs ship with all language packs on the install CD/DVD. No matter where you buy the machine, you get to choose the language of the operating system.

ibooks and low end PC notebooks are fairly comparable in price but you do get a better deal with the ibooks because the video card is a separate component and doesn't use part of your RAM.

Powerbooks are really great if you can afford them but the truth is that an ibook will fit the needs of most casual users. Save the price difference to get a copy of MS office and a bit of extra RAM, it will be worth it.

If you're in the U.S.A., get a mac there and bring it with you as it will be a heck of a lot cheaper (base model is $999).


I'm not trying to start a PC/Mac war as the difference is almost non existent nowdays. The only thing that matters is that you don't have to worry about spyware and viruses with a Mac. You can spend a heck of a lot more time using your machine than trying to sort out what is wrong with it.
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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JimDunlop2 wrote:
Ahh... But that's where we start getting into some more serious coin.... Smile

Ahh... But Apple seem to have singlehandedly set out to prove to the comptuer world that you get what you pay for....









...unless you build it yourself which, for your information Sherri, is why I will always have a handbuilt PC sitting in my office and will never buy the black boxes that Macs are despite their many lovely features.
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shmooj: Sure you can build a homemade Mac clone..... But from what I've heard, it's about as expensive and a lot more annoying than just going out and buying a real one from the store...
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AsiaTraveller



Joined: 24 May 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone interested in purchasing an Apple product should know that Apple has some very significant "educational discounts" on all of its computers. Anyone who is a student or a teacher can obtain the educational discount. Check it out on the Apple corporate website.

Additionally, significant educational discounts on software (PC and Mac) can be obtained from www.academicsuperstore.com. You usually need to fax proof that you're a student or a teacher.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JimDunlop2 wrote:
shmooj: Sure you can build a homemade Mac clone..... But from what I've heard, it's about as expensive and a lot more annoying than just going out and buying a real one from the store...

Sure, but who wants a clone? I mean I might as well buy it off the shelf for all the difference it will make to my final machine.

The sleek machine I have sitting next to me now is unique in that I hand picked the components for my own needs and was able to quickly and simply assemble them with no more than a screwdriver and a cup of tea. There simply isn't a marketplace out there for Mac that would enable me to do this unless I had the income of, say, Steve Jobs.

Major turn off... Evil or Very Mad
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaTraveller wrote:
You usually need to fax proof that you're a student or a teacher.

I tried this before with Microsoft who have a similar scheme. They wouldn't let me claim the discount because they wouldn't accept TEFL as teaching. No joke. I hope Mac are more broadminded. Are they?
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Sherri



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought the Mac version of MS Office (teacher's edition) with no problems.

Shmooj, you make it sound easy to customize and maybe it is! But it was even easier to just buy the machine, plug it in and use it. All I do it send email, write some MS word docs and connect to the internet. I don't need anything fancy and I don't have the interest (to be honest) to pick and choose components. The whole process is more of a chore for me than a pleasure. Now I have to buy a new printer and I have been putting it off because of the huge choice and range of prices.

Off to teach my last day of classes for this term, HURRAY!!!
Sherri
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AsiaTraveller



Joined: 24 May 2004
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Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Penang, Denpasar, Berkeley

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shmooj,

In my experience, Apple is quite lenient in granting the educational discount. When I ordered my PowerBook online, they in fact did not ask for ANY proof of an educational affiliation!
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Nismo



Joined: 27 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shmooj - sure, anyone can build a desktop system, but I thought we were on laptops here Very Happy
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also had no problems buying MS software directly from a store and getting a teacher's discount. Didn't even show any ID either.

Yes, building a laptop, that would be impressive.
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Albright



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who hate Windows but can't afford a Mac, most versions of Linux I've seen allow you to install in a wide variety of languages just as the Mac OS does.
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