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matttheboy · Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 854 Location: Valparaiso, Chile

Guy Courchesne wrote this in a recent post:

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

My post was made in humour. Let's not turn this into a gang up on Moonie thing. I had a point to make - it's made, end of it.

matttheboy · Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 854 Location: Valparaiso, Chile

Thanks for that Guy- i honestly don't remember posting that (well it is the start of the summer holidays here in Buenos Aires) and i haven't checked my mail for a few days-i believe i may have had a few too many shandies that night...i have to say that i am pleasantly surprised by my ability to write a whole message drunk without so much as a typo though Cool

I agree, not the best way to challenge someone and i would like to apologise to Moonraven. I'm not normally so petty and i usually try to find more constructive ways to talk to people.

Off to Vina del Mar for a few days with the girlf then back to england for a month so if i don't manage to get back to this forum for a while i wish anyone reading this a very merry christmas and a happy new year,

chau for now,

Matt

matttheboy · Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 854 Location: Valparaiso, Chile

Oh, completely by the by but Guy, you look Canadian in your photo (i lived in Quebec for a year a few years back)...are you???

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

You are correct. Je suis Franco-Ontarien, with maple syrup coursing through my viens, hockey on my mind, and ready to drop the gloves at the first whistle, baby...

Vina del Mar...hope you are enjoying Chile...

Paulie2003 · Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 541

I've gleaned that you are - indeed - Canadian, Guy!

That explains much of your liberal philosophy!

Tell me, (as tribute to Michael Moore) - do you lock your doors in Mexico?

Because...according to Mike...you don't have to in Canada!!

P.S....Loved the Canadian Rockies!!

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

The Canadian Rockies for me are a place of great spiritual renewal. If one hasn't been, allow me to suggest trekking a path westward from Calgary, past Dead Man's flats at sunrise, so the towering grey peaks appear as red as an October maple forrest.

All us Canadians are liberal philosophers, eh? It comes with the Service Manual at birth... Rolling Eyes

Michael Moore found some fools in Toronto and Sarnia that don't lock their doors. I'll bet they got robbed right after the film was aired.

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Guy--My fondest memory of the Canadian rockies was swimming in the mineral pool at Radium Hot Springs--at sunset--with several beautiful mountain goats watching us from the cliffs above the pool.

My memories of rutabagas everyplace we stopped to eat are considerably less fond.

Mattheboy--You are the second person to use being sh--tfaced when starting a thread about me as an excuse for unacceptable behavior. It's getting old. In the spirit of Christmas, I accept your apology.

And since this thread supposedly has to do with my poetry, here's one about friendship:

Reconnecting with a Friend after Twenty Years

For Duane Niatum

The Burke Museum
cafeteria: whirling
steam, like white writing
on an espresso canvas
smeared with the years� passages,

painting us the same�
only older. Wet leaves stuck
to our shoes and tongues,
we proceed as if peeling
chestnuts, dropping their hot skins

on the brushy trail
of half-buried memories.
We hunt for essence:
the dark, mealy chestnut meat,
the one perfect white stone to

skip across a lake
swollen with information,
dreams we caught and made
real, the ones that got away
echoing with Moon�s laughter.

Here your own laughter
explodes like Orca breaking
through the mute surface
of waves in the churning strait�
while mine crackles like Raven

rampant with wry traits,
burning black in the smoke hole.
Scattering new stars
is the task of old poets;
Raven tosses them skyward,

Orca insures their
intemporal reflections.
So it goes, my friend:
Coffee, laughter�and poems
nipping at our traveled heels.

(Moon: When all is gathered in)

Cheers!

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

Truly beautiful... Very Happy

Chinook, Moonraven?

Tamara · Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 108

Thank you, Moonraven, for sharing that poem. It was very meaningful.

Smile

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Guy: The reference to November as the Moon when all is gathered in is from the Tewa group in New Mexico.

Now the Klallam poet to whom it's dedicated would call it the Moon of frost returning.

Tamara: What, precisely, do you mean by "meaningful"?

Tamara · Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 108

I thought/think the poem has meaning. I especially liked this part.

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Thanks.

It was a philosophical question--something that is meaningful usually means something specific, and I wondered what that was for you. That's all.

Tamara · Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 108

Ah, but not poetry. Poetry isn't specific. Meaning changes from author/poet to reader. The meaning you infuse into your poetry isn't necessarily the same meaning I'll grasp. But you know that as a poet, and poetry should encourage readers to bring a bit of themselves into the process of finding meaning in whatever they read.

Once again, thank you for sharing.

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Hmm--yes, I am familiar with the Intentional Fallacy--I started teaching literature courses in universities in 1968....

Don't condescend to me.

And you didn't answer my question.