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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
Posts: 1758
Location: Seoul, ROK

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sherri wrote:
it was even easier to just buy the machine, plug it in and use it. All I do it send email, write some MS word docs and connect to the internet. I don't need anything fancy

... and I don't need to pay for anything I will never use which is what you do if you buy something off the shelf. Sure, not everyone has the inclination to build a computer or shop for parts. I understand that. Just so long as you are happy that because your computer has to be made for the average Joe, it is cram full of components that make it all things to all wo/men and are usually never used by people who just want what you want.

As for ease of purchase and installation. It took me about 2 hours of online shopping to find the bits I wanted. Then I was in the shop for about 30mins ordering them. They were delivered to my house within an hour. I then spent a grand total of an hour putting it together. Even including the wait for the bits to get to my house, 4.5 hours is fairly comparable to what you'd spend shopping around for, ordering and unpacking an off-the-shelf machine. It is even quicker to build a machine you only need for email, Word and the Internet.

Sure, this only applies to desktops of course.
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henro



Joined: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 9
Location: Kito, Japan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:57 am    Post subject: Mac in Japan Reply with quote

I bought my iBook G4 (14 inch screen) from Apple, Japan. I got the one with the English keyboard, an option when you order. It orginally came with the Japanese set of installation disks. I switched the OS to English interface, but AppleWorks didn't switch -- it was simply a Japanese program. I think a few other installed programs were also, I forget. So I called and they sent me a complete set of English OS installation disks.

I find the iBook more than sufficient for my needs. (I got extra RAM). I edit videos and sound files for school video projects, create web sites, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Apple customer service is truly unbelieveable.

On the other hand, getting back to an earlier part of this thread, I also have a Sony Vaio which came with windows 98 Japanese installed. I've upgraded it to XP (English). The only real hassle was that I couldn't actually "upgrade" -- I had to do a complete installation from scratch.

The main differences between the two, other than the usual things everyone knows about Mac vs. Windows, are:

1 -- Networking on Windows networks in Japan with a Mac is a hassle. Possible but difficult, with different workarounds needed in each of my three schools. I hope Tiget improves this.
2 -- Most printers found in Japanedse schools don't have available Mac drivers.
3 -- Multilingual text processing (and unicode use) is still much, much easier with the Mac.
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Posts: 2286
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henro: re: networking. Don't I know it! I used to adminster a network back in Canada that consisted of both Macs and PCs. By far, the BEST and EASIEST solution was not to force the Macs communicate in "PC language" but to make the PCs understand the Mac network.

It was beautiful! I don't know if you can call a network "art" but if you could, the way I had everything rigged was outright poetic.

Smile

Still love Mac. Stuck in a PC world! Sad
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