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ohahakehte



Joined: 25 Aug 2003
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Location: japan

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:55 pm    Post subject: minimum conditions for teaching contracts? Reply with quote

i have an honours english degree from a canadian university and one year teaching experience in seoul. i wanna find a job teaching in japan in the next few months and im curious to know what the minimum conditions of a contract should be?

for korea a rookie teacher should go for a contract that includes:
-2 million won salary
-return airfare paid for
-rent paid for
-insurance partly or mostly paid for
-school w/i walking distance of apartment

i got all of that out of my contract that i did in korea and i didnt even do a lot of research. if i went back to korea i would look for contracts that paid at least 2.1 or 2.2 million.

but whats the story for japan? from what i hear its not like korea in that most schools dont pay for airfare or rent and sometimes you have long commutes to work. generally 250,000 yen a month is the standard salary from what i hear, with rent coming to about 50,000 a month.

what minimum contract conditions should i be looking for? since im an experienced teacher should i be expecting more than the bare minimum?
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:44 pm    Post subject: Re: minimum conditions for teaching contracts? Reply with quote

ohahakehte wrote:


but whats the story for japan? from what i hear its not like korea in that most schools dont pay for airfare or rent and sometimes you have long commutes to work. generally 250,000 yen a month is the standard salary from what i hear, with rent coming to about 50,000 a month.

what minimum contract conditions should i be looking for? since im an experienced teacher should i be expecting more than the bare minimum?



IN Japan you pay your own airfare except if you go on the JET program. Teachers pay their own rent but some schools will pay your key money. AEON will subsidise your rent if you rent their apartments but if you rent elsewhere you pay them 42,000 a month. rent will depend on where you live but pay anything between 40,000 to 70,000 a month for employer provided accomodation.

250,000 yen is what immigration asks forfrom employers in order to sponsor a work visa but now employers offering 220,000 or even 200,000 for full time positions are not uncommon.

As some union guy said, a full time salary is whatever the immigration accepts in exchange for a work visa. There is no legal requirement to pay any more than that.
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes it depends on your visa.

Work visas require 3- or 4-year degrees. I don't know what an honours English degree entails in Canada. That's about it for the work visa and usually for most eikaiwa work.

You may be eligible for a working holiday visa as well. No degree required, but there is an age limit, and you have to apply in your home country.

What conditions should the CONTRACT have?

"Have" is a bit strange way to put it. You will find that the majority of eikaiwas have contracts only for a year, and that the salaries will be monthly (250,000-280,000 yen/month before taxes). I think most employers will pay for your local transportation. Most probably offer some sort of housing which you will pay rent and utilities for. (Some exceptions exist.) Don't expect the location to be convenient; it will vary on the employer. Many (don't know the percentage) will not pay into your health insurance or pension plans because they get away with a legal loophole. About 99% do not pay return airfare.

These are the conditions for rookies as well as most veterans (yes, salary does not change much if at all, no matter how long you stay at a place). Anything other than this is a luxury item that will probably be rare.
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Doglover



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What things should be included in my labour contract with my employer?


Your labour contract must include the following: the length of the contract, wages, and working hours. If your contract and actual working conditions differ you may cancel your contract immediately (Article 15).

The Labour Standards Law Ordinances also lay down that the methods for deciding on, calculating and paying wages, must be clearly stated in a written document delivered to the worker.
There is also a stipulation in the law that states that if you moved residence in order to start a new job and then your actual working conditions are different from the stated working conditions, you may quit and if you return home within 14 days the company is obligated to pay your way home. This would be the case for someone working at a school that recruits overseas. As far as the General Union knows, this law has never been tried with foreigners returning to their home countries. If you're in this situation, let us know (Article 15).


Outside of my contract are there any other kind of workplace rules that I should know about? (Chapter 9)

Yes. All workplaces with over 10 employees must have working rules which are available for all workers to see and must also be filed at the district Labour Standards Office. Not only must these rules exist and be made available to all workers, but the comment of either a trade union or a workers' representative must be attached and registered at the Labour Standards Office.

The things that must be included in working rules are as follows: working hours, overtime regulations, wage calculations, wage payment dates, and all procedures for discipline, fines, or firings.
Also, because working rules are to be made accessible to all employees your employer should provide the rules in English (Article 106).
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Iwantmyrightsnow



Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: minimum conditions for teaching contracts? Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:
250,000 yen is what immigration asks forfrom employers in order to sponsor a work visa but now employers offering 220,000 or even 200,000 for full time positions are not uncommon.


That figure went by the wayside a number of years ago (2-3??). You will now find immigration will give the visa on as little as 180,000 per month. It really depends what office it is. That is why you see jobs advertised for under 250,000 per month now.
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Lister100



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

screwed up

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Nismo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lister100 wrote:
Hello Again,

I have a few questions about contracts that I hope someone can enlighten on.

I recently made what might have been a big blunder signing a contract before I had read all the teacher guidelines. They were mailed to after I signed the contract (i know i'm an idiot).

In the guidelines they say that I will be working a "normal 9 hour work week" of which a maximum of 8 hours will be spent teaching in the classroom. I am getting paid 250 000 yen a month.

I also have the no fraternization with the staff clause,

Formal dress code with bow ties for adult students,

The special event work days (Easter, Halloween, Christmas parties( which I will be paid for.

7 weeks holidays and paid airfare up to 100 000 yen after six months.

Is this a fair deal? If it isn't and break contract what are the consequences? Will I be able to work in Japan again?


That is a pretty basic deal, yes. However, two parts throw me off:

1. No fraternization with the staff. That seems strange to me, because the most fraternization most business people do in their every-day lives is with their peers. That seems a bit cold to tell you that you can't be friends with your co-workers. I would understand if you couldn't fraternize with students, but limiting you from even co-workers is a bit torterous.

2. Formal dress code with a bow tie? A bow tie, like the ones you wear with a tuxedo? I think that is a little gimmicky, and is representative of exploitation of foreign teachers. Are you sure it's not just a normal tie you are required to wear?
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Lister100



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

screwed up.

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ohahakehte



Joined: 25 Aug 2003
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Location: japan

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lister100 wrote:
I'm not allowed to socialize with staff after work hours without the express permission of my supervisor.


holy crap. i would expect a prohibition like that if you were teaching in north korea, but not japan!

im a newbie to teaching in japan...can someone tell me if such "clauses against mixing with the coworkers" are common in the land of the rising sun?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few places that I know have this clause. Be advised that not everything in a Japanese contract is legal, let alone enforceable. This is definitely one of those that is neither.
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Lister100



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the hours?

Is a 45 hour work week for Y250000 normal? Works out to about $16 an hour, but isn't Japan about two to three times the price? That would means that I am actually working a minimum wage(or less) job when you balance it out.

I have a university degree in English, true its not ESL but it is language based.
I have a TESL certificate from a not very reknown provider and some training and tutoring experience.

The holidays look to be pretty good but I'm not sure if this is a standard deal.

I don't want to sound like a complainer. All I want is to know what I'm getting into. At 8 hours teaching time with weekly reports that means that I will likely have a pretty lengthy preparation time. Throw that on top of my teaching hours and guide lines.

Should I accept this?
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Lister100



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lister100 wrote:
Hello Again,
In the guidelines they say that I will be working a "normal 9 hour work week" of which a maximum of 8 hours will be spent teaching in the classroom. I am getting paid 250 000 yen a month.
?



Lister, Im confused.



One minute its a 45 hour week, now its a nine hour week, or 90-minutes a day. The average language teacher will work an 8-hour day, 5 days a week. Labor law says you can work a maximum of 40 hours over 6 days, with one day off. What about time off or prep-time between lessons? I assume they give you time to prepare your classes and you will need it for teaching kids.


Lister100 wrote:
H

I also have the no fraternization with the staff clause,


Outside work hours you are basically free to associate with whoever you wish, and your employer can not tell you who you can associate with in your free time, including foreign or Japanese staff. probably what they want to avoid is you chatting up or dating the office girls. Basically they are treating you like a chaperoned 12 year old.

This fraternisation clause though not illegal is actually unenforceable and they can not stop you going out for beers with your work mates, male or female, Japanese or foreign after work in your own time. A call to the general union will set them right if they call you up on it.

Lister100 wrote:
Formal dress code with bow ties for adult students,

The special event work days (Easter, Halloween, Christmas parties( which I will be paid for.?


Say what? they want you to wear a tuxedo and pinstripes?

Only waiters in coffee shops here wear bow ties.

Easter Halloween and Christmas are not official holidays here but customary as they are western celebrations. December 25th is a work day.

Lister100 wrote:
7 weeks holidays and paid airfare up to 100 000 yen after six months.

Is this a fair deal? If it isn't and break contract what are the consequences? Will I be able to work in Japan again?


Language schools are required to provide a minimum of 10 paid days off after 6 months, 11 days after one year of service. there are a lot of holidays in Japan, such as Golden week, (1 week) Obon (4-5 days) New year (up to two weeks) and assorted national holidays. Check into how many of these you have to work, and you may not get paid if the school is not open.

Quit before six months and you lose the airfare bonus, and sometimes schools will find an excuse not to pay you or tie it to a performance bonus, so be careful.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lister100 wrote:
What about the hours?

Is a 45 hour work week for Y250000 normal? Works out to about $16 an hour, but isn't Japan about two to three times the price? That would means that I am actually working a minimum wage(or less) job when you balance it out.
?


250,000 divided by 180 hours works out at less than 1400 yen an hour and this is GROSS income. take out income tax and rent and you are left with a bit less. Lets say tax is 8% or 20,000 yen and rent is 50,000 yen.

you are left with 180,000 yen. Glenski has a break down on your figures but expect to spend up to 100,000 on basic expenses.

Prices in Japan are not 2 or 3 times $US prices. they are more expensive and Tokyo is on par with prices in New York or London.

see the link below

http://www.pricechecktokyo.com
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure the 9 hour work week is a typo and should be 9 hour work DAY (assuming 8 hours in the building teaching, plus an hour for lunch).

Formal dress code doesn't imply tuxedo, Paul. It MIGHT mean that, but I wouldn't take it that way. Just a full suit, not a sport coat and nice slacks. Personally, a bow tie is a little weird to me. Lister had better confirm what is really wanted (and perhaps learn how to tie a bow tie).

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Is a 45 hour work week for Y250000 normal?

Technically, if I read through the typos, you are actually WORKING 40 hours, with 5 hours a week for meal breaks. So, in that case, yes, this is entirely normal. You will even find places these days offering LESS pay for those hours (and some that offer slightly more).

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isn't Japan about two to three times the price?

Some things are more expensive. Depends on what region of the US you are from. I've heard Brits comment that most things here are the same as in London. Books and magazines, however, are twice the US prices. Cases of Coke and bags of certain foreign snacks are also high. Then again, so are prices for many foreign (read: Japanese) good in some parts of the USA.
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