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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The *beep* was just B.I.T.C.H., nothing vulgar.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When her paper is published I will let you know so you can at least read the Abstract which will be in English. After the English abstract the rest of her published works are all in Chinese. She is a classic example of what she describes.


My Chinese classmate, who was an assistant professor in a teacher's college in Hubei, told me the same irony. Even worse, their MA and PHD holders do the research on a particular field of English linguistics but write their findings in Chinese and have the article published in a CHINESE journal! If they are not competent enough to write in English, how can they be expected to be competent in their oral English? [To the best of my knowledge, the common problem with EFL learners everywhere is that their oral competence lags behind their written one, yet what happens in China-if it does happen-does not even support MY assertion.]

I have many Chinese friends who are doing Masteral courses in my uni and it is not uncommon to find a small number of them speaking English like beginner learners, but I also have come to know some Chinese national professors who speak English at native-like fluency (as they did their PHD in the States and lived there for a long time! Very Happy ) It's not difficult to tell that all the best talents go to foreign countries who can afford to pay them big sum of money.


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They teach English using Chinese and discourage students from using English as that constitutes a challenge to the teacher's English speaking ability, which is usually very poor.


It is not entirely wrong to teach a second or foreign language using the learners' first language. This is especially beneficial in vocabulary teaching, though a number of other techniques should be employed to complement it. Perhaps anybody has ever experienced the difficulty of explaining the meaning of a lexicon and after much effort finally the long sigh of relief "Oh..." was heaved by the learners.

Discouraging students from using English is definitely wrong. I guess in the culture where teachers are seen as the dominant and 'to-be-respected' figure in classrooms learners, especially the young ones, have no choice but to heed their SILLY order, but alas, to their own expense! SAVING FACE strategy?
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