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HKU PGDE anyone?
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dezza



Joined: 12 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: HKU PGDE anyone? Reply with quote
Hi folks, have any of you completed or are in the process of completing your PGDE at Hong Kong University?

If so, what are your thoughts about the school, the program and the method of teaching?

Also, is the PGDE recognized around the world as a legitimate teaching degree?

Please give me your thoughts as I am considering enrolling for the program.

Your help is much appreciated!
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Ger



Joined: 25 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I know that HKU is running a couple of PGCE programmes deadline 14 Jan 2004, but was not aware that HKU is running a PGDE. Could you provide the website link please for the HKU pgde to which you refer?

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once again



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
HKU changed the name of its PGCE to a PGDE for the 2004 intake. Most reports that I have heard is that it is ok.
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dezza



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:16 pm    Post subject: THanks Reply with quote
C=Certificate
D=Diploma

What's the difference anyway?

Thanks.
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once again



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It seems it is all in the name. HKU found itself the only awarding institute in HK that was calling itself "certificate", which apparently led to problems when at conferences etc. It seems the academic world is a stickler for its terms. In the UK it is still a cert. It seems to make little difference what it is called as long as the body accepting it is aware of its facts.
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Susie



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The difference between c and d may be considerable if you have paid your money to HKU, completed the course, and apply for HK NET secondary only to be told by the EMB that your pgce is insufficient, we require you to have a pgde (see point (ii) below)!

http://www.emb.gov.hk/index.aspx?langno=1&nodeid=1254
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once again



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
There are many many secondary NETs working in HK with the PGCE. It is the title of the award in the UK. If you take the public teaching postgraduate qualification in the UK then you will get a cert. The EMB appears to be well aware of the facts of the different names on the qualifications. It states in the page linked above:
" Candidates with a PGDE or equivalent "
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ContemporaryDog



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
How much does the PGCE cost in Hong Kong, and how does it compare to doing the PGCE in the UK?
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Mark-O



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ContemporaryDog wrote:
How much does the PGCE cost in Hong Kong, and how does it compare to doing the PGCE in the UK?


Simple: in Hong Kong you pay to take the course; in the UK you are paid FOR doing it! Of course, this rests on the assumption that you are a UK national and that you are resident in the UK. I'm not sure where you'd stand for eligibility if you've been out of the country working for x years.

Just to clarify, in the UK the PGCE tuition fees are written off, and the government offers all applicants a �6000 bursary which is paid over the 9 months of the course. Repayment of the bursary is only necessary under the circumstance that the applicant does not complete the course. Hence, if you decide to take the PGCE qualification to teach overseas, or decide not to teach at all having completed it, then you are not currently obligated to pay back the aforementioned sum. I'm taking advantage of this 'free lunch' whilst it remains...
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