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merlin

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 582 Location: Somewhere between Camelot and NeverNeverLand
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distiller

Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 249
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:41 am Post subject: |
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I love the quote from the ad: "You can win every argument with your liberal friends � just wear Bush Country and point to the map!" It shows exactly how stupid you would have to be buy this shirt or to buy into the idea that America is anything other than very divided right now. |
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sigmoid
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1276
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Here's an interesting map for everybody that I just saw: the one I saw was called the Down Under Map. This one is called the Upside Down Map. Anyway the idea is the same. You can't see much detail from this picture, so I guess you have to buy one.
here's another version:
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Those maps are great, but they are still eurocentric. In case people don't know what I'm talking about, I mean the countries in the Northern hemisphere are much larger than they ought to be, and the countries in the Southern hemisphere are much smaller. In case your still baffled, Greenland is not bigger than Australia. |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 85
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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guest of Japan wrote: |
Those maps are great, but they are still eurocentric. In case people don't know what I'm talking about, I mean the countries in the Northern hemisphere are much larger than they ought to be, and the countries in the Southern hemisphere are much smaller. In case your still baffled, Greenland is not bigger than Australia. |
I hate to break the news to you, but the exaggerated size of Greenland has nothing to do with eurocentrism. It's a simple matter of the difficulty of taking a round object (the earth) and flattening it out to a sheet of paper (a map). Any landmasses near the poles will tend to look larger on a flat map (like Greenland). If you will notice, most of the land masses are in the Northern hemisphere and certainly landmasses nearer to the poles are there as well. Yes, that's right, the only truly accurate map is a globe.
Now, if you want to float the theory that Greenland has successfully lobbied the cartography companies to make its landmass appear larger, then you may have something. Damn Europeans.  |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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merlin

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 582 Location: Somewhere between Camelot and NeverNeverLand
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Simply stated: In the most common type map printed in Europe and North America the horizontal lines are farther apart in the north and closer together in the south. this makes the distance from the US/Canada Border to Alaska appear greater than the distance from Seattle to San Diego.
Maps can be tricky, can't they?
For example, notice that Canada is "pink" and the United states "green" on one of the maps. Were those colors chosen randomly? Hmmm... |
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lajzar
Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 647 Location: Saitama-ken, Japan
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homersimpson
Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 569 Location: Kagoshima
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Now, we're fighting over maps?! How many people even live in Greenland? About 50,000? Yes, Australia is bigger. Is that a country in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
P.S. Inferiority complexes, enter door No. 1 to the right. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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For example, notice that Canada is "pink" and the United states "green" on one of the maps. Were those colors chosen randomly? Hmmm... |
In all the maps and globes I remember seeing in my youth, and I was some kind of geography nut in my youth, Canada was always pink. So was the UK. The US was more often than not yellow. Mexico was either blue or brown. MAybe commonwealth countries are pink?
Is there a college course out there for country color physchology or globe painting? |
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ketama

Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Posts: 13 Location: la Teste de buch, france
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merlin

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 582 Location: Somewhere between Camelot and NeverNeverLand
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: |
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know its old, but still oh so apropos� |
Thanks! I've been keeping my eye out for that map for the past three years and I couldn't find it anywhere.
Thanks for the link.
Needs to be updated to mark the location of the Axis of evil, though. |
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The G-stringed Avenger
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 746 Location: Lost in rhyme infinity
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:19 am Post subject: |
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I saw that on "The West Wing" once where some group was trying to lobby for a change in maps that depicted Northern Hemisphere countries as larger because of some wacko theory about the white man trying to keep the natives in their place. What a bunch of codswallop! Political correctness and historical revisionism gone mad! What next? |
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ketama

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merlin

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