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anonymous_alaska



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:57 pm    Post subject: The American Explosion Reply with quote

I think (and hope) America is going to become even more amazing. I think it's going to have an explosion of geniuses within ten or twenty years. The reason is the internet and its democratic ideal. The people at the top cannot control it(or at least I hope they won't be able to).

I'm hoping to become a math teacher in secondary school. I learned about this math teaching magazine called Math Teacher put out by the National Council of Mathematics Teachers. This organization and magazine have been around since the 1920's. The activities in it are phenomenal.(The British also have a great organization and magazine.) I probably would never have heard about these magazines before the internet, or maybe heard and not concerned myself with looking into it, continuing to be the boring leading the bored.

So I think more and more people will start to contribute interesting and better things to younger generations in all disciplines if the clamps aren't somehow put on.

Hats off to the academics and thinkers of the open society who didn't copyright or weren't able to copyright the whole shebang.

When the sleeper wakes!!!

(Sorry this was a reply to a previous post, but I accidentally hit new post.)
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't follow your logic.

What does access to Internet have to do with genius?

Can you express what you are trying to say in mathematical terms?
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but more in a generational and international sense. The explosion of access to alternate and mulitple threads of information and ideas via the net can do nothing but produce better communication and hopefully more tolerance and open-mindedness. I wouldn't go so far as to say genius, but I agree with the spirit of what you're saying.

The great thing is, not only the US will benefit, but the whole world. The only problem is the digital divide and perhaps control issues in countries like China.
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lajzar



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is of course the alternate hypothesis that the Internet has replaced TV as the new idiot box. Consider that the vast majority of web traffic is either spam/viruses, porn, or videos of dubious legality. That doesn't strike me as evidence of an intellectual blossoming.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that most of what is on the Internet is crap.

The primitive method of operation of the search engines is also not a glowing example of future erudition or even efficient investigation.

And then we need to examine the habits of users--which in the majority are clearly not indicative of the pursuit of knowledge.
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Spinoza



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

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leeroy



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I think (and hope) America is going to become even more amazing.


How modest... Smile
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
I agree that most of what is on the Internet is crap.

The primitive method of operation of the search engines is also not a glowing example of future erudition or even efficient investigation.

And then we need to examine the habits of users--which in the majority are clearly not indicative of the pursuit of knowledge.


You really think so? I'm surprised to hear yours and other posts reacting this way. I've never seen the net as being very passive, like TV is, save for the thumb exercise on the remote.

I see its potential not so much in research, but in communication...being able to add your voice rather than simply watch. I think this forum here is a great example of how it works. Thinking back 20 years ago, very few of us here would ever have been in contact with each other. All flaming aside, our circles of influence and/or experience are exponentially wider through the use of the net.

On the lighter side, it used to be that a porn-monkey could only get what the local back-alley shop had collecting dust on the shelves. Now, for only 2.99, you can get international porn delivered to your desktop in seconds! Don't underestimate the the educational value of Brazilian XXX.

Shocked
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy--I don't share your opinion regarding the communication on this forum.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
moonraven wrote:
I agree that most of what is on the Internet is crap.

You really think so? I'm surprised to hear yours and other posts reacting this way.


Like Guy, I think the Internet is vastly superior to other media forms - but you need to use your common sense to filter out the excessive bullsh1t.
And unfortunately, "common sense" doesn't really seem to be all that common.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which, ls650, is why I don't expect the Internet to have any more influence on creating "genius" than MAD magazine did--and perhaps less.
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ChinaMovieMagic



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF...one entertains
the entertaining hypothesis
...that there's earth life-after-life
a la re-incarnation...
...that we're here not to be judged by the omni-potentate
...but to learn...
...especially from our mistakes...
...to burn out/transcend our attachments/illusions...

Then...the Internet surfing of polluted waters could be seen in another light...

Hyper-drive into Negative Karma...
"Been down so long, looks like up to me..."
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leeroy



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
Guy--I don't share your opinion regarding the communication on this forum.


Well, I can certainly agree that a little work needs to be done Laughing

What I like is that unlike the tv, where the only option is to turn off and change channel, here, I can pipe up and complain, add my opinion, learn something new by asking, or sit back and wait for the tide to change.

How many of us sit at home and curse a blue streak at the tv? I catch myself doing it during hockey playoffs. The coaches, refs, and players never hear me though. Here, if we need it, reaching out and touching someone actually works.
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lajzar



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And on this forum, a) how many of us are American and directly contribute to America's greatness, and b) how many of us actually contribute to an intellectual blossoming that is enhanced by teh use of teh Internet?

Perhaps this forum, being composed of teachers, has more than a typical share of B, but for the original poster's hypothesis to be correct, both would need to be true for many people, which plainly isn't.
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