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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| I believe that the keys to changing cultures are learning about the new culture--I mean everything you can--and investing yourself in it. So long as you are thinking about what the benfits are for you--rather than what you can do to benefit the community--you will be an outsider. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| Interesting comments so far. I'd like to add that I think much of this depends on where you live. Some cultures are much tougher to interact or become accepted by than others. Japan is near impossible and in fact you will always be an outsider "a gaijin" no matter what you do, how much Japanese you speak, how long you've lived there or even if you do attain Japanese citizenship. I'm not saying the Japanese are unfriendly to foreigners, but there will always be an "us and them". Furthermore, the more Japanese you speak, the less they trust you IMO. Many Japanese people like it when you learn to speak Japanese, but become fluent and then they get uneasy This is what I have observed at least. Of course these are generalizations. |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:06 am Post subject: |
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| Gordon wrote: |
| Of course these are generalizations. |
indeed so. I didn't enjoy Japan until the end of my third year. We just returned having left a year ago, and spent two weeks there. It really reinforced to me just how deep the relationships had got. Some of them were much deeper and have lasted longer than I initially thought.
These relationships took about 6 years in the same place to develop in Japan. A lot of work but definitely worthwhile. So, in terms of replying to Leeroy's excellent question in the the OP, I think the more effort we make, the greater the reward not only for us, but also for the people we leave behind.
Involved in the TESOL field, we have a great opportunity to cross cultural divides and while I would hesitate to say we are obliged to do this, I think I would strongly recommend making the effort. So many positives result. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| I hope my point is not misconstrued to think we should not try to learn the language or that it is hopeless. Just that some countries/cultures are more difficult to bridge than others. |
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XXX
Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 174 Location: Where ever people wish to learn English
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I found that a smile and an attempt to learn about the culture that you are in does wonders for getting along with the locals. I was always treated the same way I treated them- with respect. |
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