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Nagoyaguy · Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 425 Location: Aichi, Japan

Any evidence of torture in the relief effort? No. Just help.

Your preference that thousands should have died is fascinating. And chilling. The 'goons' are performing a service to the world.

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

I think that sometimes, the largest machine in the world created to sow death and destruction (when required to) can actually be used for good, as we are (hopefully) seeing now in having US ships in the Tsunami region giving assistance.

Again, I'm not one to support the US military or the current administration, but on the surface, it seems that the fastest way to get help out to those who need it comes from the ubiquitous US army and navy presence around the world.

I really HATE having to swallow this bitter pill but there it is. I just hope they don't take advantage of this tragedy.

Josh Lyman · Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 98

Private organisations can't get to a lot of the affected areas. Many people are getting aid from helicopters. Where do the helicopters come from?

A: The US Military.

Leeroy: On MSN they show a video of some crazy Muslim cleric on Al Aribiya, saying that the earthquake was the infidels� punishment from Allah for their debauchery. Laughing

Surely Allah would have better aim.

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Guy--if there were no advantage to be taken, you can bet that they wouldn't be there.

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Nagoyaguy · Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 425 Location: Aichi, Japan

Merlin;

In a time of crisis, ANY SHIP available will do to "carry rice". It is really simple. If the US Navy had stayed in port, thousands of people would have died. Perhaps tens of thousands. However, they did not. They went to help. For that, they deserve praise.

I am not aware of any submarines being used in the relief effort. Mostly it is one aircraft carrier, the USS Abraham Lincoln, and a variety of smaller ships. Plus the Marines are using some helicopter carriers, since helicopters are often the only vehicle that can carry supplies to remote areas. Australian, Indian, and Singaporean ships also did great work and helped thousands too.

As to merchant ships, do you realize the time it would take to sail from, say, the west coast of the US to the Indian Ocean? Plus time to load cargo, offload, it would take weeks. Again, thousands would die. The navy ships started the relief effort by using their own supplies on board and distributing them. Plus using their facilities to desalinize water and deliver it. On board, the crews voluntarily went on water rations, cut back on water use, etc. so that more water could be delivered to the victims of the tsunami.

Seems you are eager to slam the US without waiting to think.

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

homersimpson · Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Posts: 569 Location: Kagoshima

Josh Lyman · Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 98

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Raven: �We birds at the beggars� banquet have been accused of callousness before. What can I say? Hey, the planet acting up like this is like a cough from the wings in the middle of the last act to remind SOME of us to say our lines right. And I have a feeling that the species for whom the cougher coughed wasn�t mine.�

Nor for whom that bell is tolling, either.

Nagoyaguy · Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 425 Location: Aichi, Japan

An alternate theory on the tsunami, brought to you by Sarcastics Anonymous....

Yes, the tsunami can be added to the growing list of tragedies that conspiracy theorists can attribute to the big bad old USA. First, they do secret underwater nuclear tests. Right beside the world's largest muslim nation, of course. Then, they create a disaster designed to scare and frighten the world. The fact that 150,000 or so brown people died was just a lucky side effect. The Americans that died, well, can't make an omelet without breaking eggs, right? The Eurotrash were also a bonus. Less socialists to pollute the world with their foul rhetoric.

Of course, the US Navy just HAPPENS to have ships standing by in the area. Coincidence? I think not. All part of the grand master plan of Bush the Younger to conquer the world. Once the locals are addicted to American food (of course laced with chemicals designed to control their minds and turn them into materialistic Chevrolet-worshipping zombies), they will do anything, ANYTHING to keep the supply.

Bingo bango, Walmart in Bandar Aceh by Christmas 2005, right beside the Marine Base and the KFC.

For a drooling moron, that Bush guy is pretty clever sometimes.....

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

I wouldn't be surprised at anything done by the Bush Gang--he is NOT clever, but his handlers are.

Apparently my comment about the human species being the target of the cough from the wings--rather than other species--just flew right by your closed mind.

Nagoyaguy · Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 425 Location: Aichi, Japan

It didnt go by my closed mind, it went under my butt. Dimestore philosophy usually does. I think you need a larger sombrero, seniorita.