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hesterprynne



Joined: 16 Sep 2003
Posts: 386
PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:19 am    Post subject: canasia Reply with quote
It's good that you will get a certificate before you come. Knowledge is never wasted.
Are you of Asian descent? Are you aware of the difficulties some overseas Chinese have in finding work in some countries teaching English?
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Canasian



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Posts: 39
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: canasia Reply with quote
hesterprynne wrote:
It's good that you will get a certificate before you come. Knowledge is never wasted.
Are you of Asian descent? Are you aware of the difficulties some overseas Chinese have in finding work in some countries teaching English?


Yes, I am of Asian descent. I have heard about the racism against Asians teaching English in Asia. I guess my plan is to try to secure a contract before I head out. I don't want to tip-toe around it though. I will let them know that i'm of Asian descent, and if that hurts my chances of employment, then that's fine. I wouldn't want an employer that treated me like that anyways.

Do you have any horror stories, or advice, hester? I'm just hoping that my degree and certification will allow me to teach english overseas somewhere sometime in 2006. In the meantime i'm trying to save up money, finish off my degree/certification and figure out where I want to go.
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Deconstructor



Joined: 30 Dec 2003
Posts: 775
Location: Montreal
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I began teaching right after graduation: packed my bags and went to Korea. It was risky, but that was the point. I had bad experiences and good ones, but overall I had a blast. I was there for more than a year. What a great opportunity, I thought, to travel and get paid at the same time. Most people wait a lifetime to travel and I was already out there in my twenties and without a penny.

This was almost 10 years ago. Since then I've taught in Europe and soon will teach in South America. In fact I just got back from Brazil where my wife was born. This means that I can easily work in Brazil (a great country, great weather, great food and great people). I've done more in 10 years as far as meeting people and seeing places go than most people do in a lifetime. I currently teach in Canada.

Teaching is art as much as it is science. Great teachers are born not made. But I suppose this is true for most professions.

Have a great time teaching in the world!
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distiller



Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 249
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Canasian,

It really depends on where you go in terms of the reaction against Asians teaching English in Asia. Mainland China often is rather intolerant as are a lot of places in Asia that just want a white face to make the parents happy. Real schools like international schools or those involved in government schemes like the NET or JET programs usually aren't like that. I can say that in Hong Kong I have worked with numerous foreign-born Chinese and while they do find it more difficult to find a position than a gweilo like me does, if they are qualified and experienced they generally don't have too much trouble.
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Canasian



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Posts: 39
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
distiller wrote:
Canasian,

It really depends on where you go in terms of the reaction against Asians teaching English in Asia. Mainland China often is rather intolerant as are a lot of places in Asia that just want a white face to make the parents happy. Real schools like international schools or those involved in government schemes like the NET or JET programs usually aren't like that. I can say that in Hong Kong I have worked with numerous foreign-born Chinese and while they do find it more difficult to find a position than a gweilo like me does, if they are qualified and experienced they generally don't have too much trouble.


Thanks for the advice, distiller. I've talked to a few people on this forum and most have warned me to stay away from Korea. I'm sure Korea has schools that don't discriminate, but i've heard quite a few warnings, so I rather just stay away.

So far, I have narrowed it down to China, Japan, and Taiwan for teaching in Asia. I would like to teach in Hong Kong, as I have an uncle there, but I have heard that I might not be qualified (fresh out of University, TEFL certificate, no previous teaching experience, only 21 years old...etc.) enough to teach there. I haven't put much thought about teaching in Hong Kong, but I definitely would if I am qualified to. It bothers me that it decreases my chances, but I guess I shouldn't be surprized. If I can't get a job there perhaps i'll take a look into South America.

But anyways, PM me if you have any futher advice. I would greatly appreciate it! Very Happy

Also, it's cool to see people like Deconstructor making a living/life out of teaching ESL. I don't have the intention of making it a career, but I could see how some people just fall in love with the lifestyle. It must be gratifying to do something you honestly want to do. I want to get to that point and hopefully teaching overseas will help me figure that out.
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dearbarbie



Joined: 05 Sep 2004
Posts: 317
Location: Tianjin, China
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
im straight out of uni, bar 6 months working in a shop while i applied for teaching jobs and got accepted. i leave my job in 4 weeks and fly out in 5!
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