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[moonraven]

Deconstructor: You wrote "Get over it and stop calling yourself experienced and intelligent."

If you had read the entire thread you would have realized that I was quoting Matt's "description" of me, and that my use of it was ironic.

Matt nor no one else on this forum has my permission to use anything I write here in his/her classroom. If you would like me to write material for your class you can arrange for a contract for that service, and an appropriate payment. Although I am not using this site in any way to drum up business, I have been a professional writer since even before I began teaching.

I feel that Matt has acted in bad faith in regard to all of us--and especially in regard to me with his baiting and belittling and insulting attitude in addition to using material without permission.

He tells us that he has a lawyer--and I don't believe him for a moment. If he did, he would not have used the term "slander" (oral defamation)--he would have used the correct legal term, "libel" (written defamation).

[ChinaMovieMagic]

Consider the essential differences between:
* Dis--cussion
Same Root as...
Per--cussion
Con--cussion

TO HIT...TO BEAT...TO WIN...

*Dia--logue
Root from the Greek LOGOS
"The Word" and/or "meaning"
Some similarity to the Chinese Root Word "TAO"
Same root as ...
Logical

SWIMMING in MEANING

TO UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE OF "THE OTHER"

The field of Dialogue Studies is developing rapidly. I hope we teachers can help promote more Dialogue in our classes and on our FORUM...

[matttheboy]

You don't believe that my brother is a solicitor (note that i didn't use the word 'lawyer' by the way. In England we have solicitors and barristers)? Why would i make something like that up? My other brother is a well-known journalist. My father a chartered surveyor, my cousins-architect, Sky camaraman, Sky researcher. Oh, sorry, i made all that up, didn't I?

'Slander' according to my Chambers English Dictionary is:

"A false or malicious report; defamation whether spoken or written; injurious defamation by spoken words or by looks, signs or gestures".

Perhaps you might be better off checking your facts before shooting your mouth off.

You have failed to recognise your deliberate manipulation of the quotation of mine which you did to twist the discussion your way.

I have not baited, belittled or insulted you once. That is your domain.

[Deconstructor]

Yes, Moonraven, thank you for pointing out the fact that you referred to yourself as �intelligent and experienced� in the ironic sense. Reading those words I was nevertheless touched by the whiff of your wing of indulgence.

[leeroy]

[ChinaMovieMagic]

Leeroy,

Thanks for that...

The TITLE of this POST could be seen as intentionally provocative--"tedious." I wonder if we're adopting the style of Yellow Journalism...with flashy headlines to increase readership. We do need to be careful of sarcasm/irony/tender feelings...

IMAGINE if we used our valuable/limited time/energy to develop international projects for/with our students.

For example, a few years ago I had my university students works in small groups on a Titanic movie-review project. Not having access to a DVD in class, we had been using a bilingual Titanic script w/audiotapes...for: listening comprehension
right-brained conversational Rhythm development
Role Play based upon the movie segments

Next step was the movie-review project. Each group chose different movie reviews I'd printed up, and then made COMPARISON CHARTS focused upon:
The Actors
The Plot
The Dialogue
etc.

Great exercise for Vocabulary development and Critical Thinking!!!
If anyone is interested in them (in English, Chinese and Pinying) drop me a PM and I'll send along the FILES.

We can do MANY such cooperative projects on this FORUM. Eventually creating some PRODUCTS which can be marketed. In China, the successful/ethical Foreign Language Teaching and Research Press is
always looking for good materials for learning English. Again, if folks are interested, PM me.

Another project...for us/our students...
A longitudinal ANALYSIS of how a TOPIC (such as this one) degenerates into misunderstandings and bitter words and ad hominem attacks. Of course, we should NOT use the words of folks who request...NOT.

A Ph.D. research project?

[Guy Courchesne]

CMM...I am inspired by your words, and, onboard.

Thanks for the links...we will be in touch.

[shmooj]

As I work in ICT for my school and have to know the laws on copyright I can provide some clarity here.

Moonraven is right and wrong. She is right that Matt does not have permission to show students this forum in class and use it for the commercial activity of TEFL but she is wrong as to why. This is because it is not her personal objections which count but the small copyright symbol at the bottom of each of these forum pages which states that it is Dave who owns the rights to this form of communication.

Guy mentioned 'fair use' a very useful loophole employed in the US for one. However the terms of 'fair use' differ from nation to nation and do not exist at all in some nations e.g. Japan which does not have such a clause. I know this from personal experience in my last job.

With all due respect, what Matt's solicitor brother thinks is irrelevant. What Dave, the copyright owner of this forum thinks is the key. Get that and all our rantings are yours... and your students

[stillnosheep]

You the man!

[Glenski]

Just curious...
Does that mean I should refrain from using movie clips or radio/TV clips in my classes as part of lessons?

How about Dear Abby columns? Or Far Side cartoons?

[Guy Courchesne]

[moonraven]

Thanks for the legal clarification, shmooj.

If you had read all of my posts on this thread--and there is no reason why you should except that you chose to call me both right and wrong without reading them--you would have noticed that I said that although this is a public forum it is PRIVATELY OWNED.

[shmooj]