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shmooj



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweetsee wrote:
Thanks Shmooj I appreciate your comments. Did you find the work less of a waste of time where you are now?

Yeah, much less. I don't think it is necessarily the country though. I'm in Korea which still has a bad reputation. However, the Koreans seem way more adept at picking up English than 99% of the Japanese I met and that of course is extremely rewarding. Just my experience, and I'm not sure I know why exactly. Certainly Koreans are are more motivated and adventurous in class - having more energy which always makes them more stimulating to work with. We're not talking Latin Americans here but nevertheless, they are enthusiastic.

In Japan, it so often seemed that students were like some great vortex sucking energy out of the class almost as soon as they walked in. Despite a lighter schedule, despite much small class sizes and despite less pressure on me for results in Japan, I find work here much less stressful.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shmooj,

That was sweet. I got a good laugh, a real out loud, ear to ear, look around to see if anyone is curious, type of laugh when I read your second paragraph. It is so true, isn't it? Good one!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Due to the dearth of threads on this board today I will attempt to resurrect this one.

My question is this:

Faced with students that do as they please and a school that does nothing, at what point do you throw in the towel and go into droid mode?
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been a bit quite. I've actually managed to do some work today!
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Deconstructor



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweetsee wrote:
Due to the dearth of threads on this board today I will attempt to resurrect this one.

My question is this:

Faced with students that do as they please and a school that does nothing, at what point do you throw in the towel and go into droid mode?


Let me say right off the bat: your sanity takes precedence.

If you're referring to one adult student (or should I say A DOLT) who seems to infect the class, and you've done the "talk to me after class" bit, "talk to the DOS" bit, and nothing works, then isolate the student. Don't allow him/her to participate in any class activity. Let him/her work alone all the time. Make sure that s/he doesn�t interfere with your teaching. This is what I did and she came around. Even if she didn�t, I�d decided to hell with her.

If you're dealing with more than one a-dolt then something's gotta give because you can't conduct a class if basic respect for the teacher is absent. Going into droid mode would make your life miserable, which would mean that nothing has changed.

On the other hand, if you're dealing with kids, then your guess is as good as any Ph.D's.

PS-This advice is general. Exactly what is the problem in your class? What do you mean "they do as they please? Do you mean they don't follow your instructions, or do they play soccer in your class?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howdy Deconstructor,

They are children, second year high school. Lesson begins with them squacking back and forth to each other, eating and drinking, chewing gum, working on print club, text messaging, etc.

The good news is they all read manga during my lesson now, one of them brings in a shopping bag full and in the morning they settle in for a day of that, which at least saves us from the heinous shreiking and non-stop verbal vomit, grunting and other guttural utterances that pass for language, these lot are on the forefront of the anti-keigo movement. Feeding time finds them hooping and whooping as they scoop their food into their mouths with heads lowered, completely tilted to one side.

I have always been an extremist and my first year of training at my new job was extremely rewarding. Can't wait to begin again!


Enjoy yourself D,
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