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hjsdvs
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:36 am Post subject: Sgn in July, maybe first time teaching (HELP!) |
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My name is David and I live in Tucson, AZ USA. I will be visting VietNam in July or Aug, for about three months. I am a White American but I am a Vietnamese Buddhist funny right? Well anyway I though about teaching while I was there, and I have my BA but no ESL cert. yet any advice on a good one to do over the net?
And please someone tell me what the average weekly hours teaching typicaly are?
Any advice please! And yes I have read all the other posts.
Really great advice but this is my fist trip outside the US so I'm perparing as much as posible.
One more thing why the hell is it so damn expensive to fly into Vietnam and so cheap to fly into Beijing I'll stop talking now. |
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Mr Wind-up Bird
Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 196
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:32 am Post subject: Re: Sgn in July, maybe first time teaching (HELP!) |
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hjsdvs wrote: |
Well anyway I though about teaching while I was there, and I have my BA but no ESL cert. yet any advice on a good one to do over the net?
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Don't do a TEFL/TESOL course on line! It'd be like learning to swim without getting in the water. You can't do a course without having any teaching practice. If you're only going to do an online course you may as well save your money & buy a book instead. |
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OzBurn
Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 199
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Sgn in July, maybe first time teaching (HELP!) |
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David, my own opinion is that you do not seem to have the English skills that are needed to teach. You write at the level of a young high school student. I would advise you to spend a year or so educating yourself in English. Work hard to improve your own skills. Learn how to write clearly and correctly. Following that, if you are still interested in teaching, start by volunteering locally. If you like it and achieve some success, try Vietnam.
It is a bad idea to attempt to teach a skill you do not have. |
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hjsdvs
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject: To: Oz Burn |
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First off writing on the internet is not a place where I worry about being completly correct all the time. Secondly I have been helping to teach about Buddha's life to young Vietnamese children at my temple, and have had no problems. This kind of advice does not help anyone, and only helps me see the destorted view you have of others. Stop wasting my time and your own. |
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Paul John
Joined: 09 Jun 2003 Posts: 52
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Ozburn does have a point. If you want to be taken seriously on an English teacher�s forum, you should try to minimize your grammar/spelling mistakes. We don�t expect perfection, but your first post was pretty badly written compared to your second.
Neither Ozburn nor I mean to put you down. You need to be aware that it can be pretty embarrassing when your students have to correct your English in class, especially when it happens regularly. VN students can be pretty sharp and very demanding. They can and do request that teachers be replaced if they aren�t up to scratch.
Mr W is right about online courses. At the very least, do a course with some element of practice teaching, where a competent trainer can observe and advise you. |
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OzBurn
Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 199
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:06 am Post subject: |
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Surely "right livelihood" includes equipping yourself with the professional skills required to teach well before you attempt to offer yourself as an expert to unsuspecting students who may sometimes be paying two-thirds of their monthly income for your instructional services. |
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OzBurn
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Oh, and it�s "too much," not "to much." |
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hjsdvs
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:38 am Post subject: Ok I get it. |
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To tell you the truth I would prefer teaching kids (4-13) or so.
I am by no means perfect in English, particularly grammar. But I am a very good listener and quite good at learning a new language. I think that I would be best placed at a school geared toward the young and one that concentrates on speaking. This would be my first post and I would use it as a learning experience.
So please, any useful advice is greatly welcome. |
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