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PAULH
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Location: Western Japan
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| Yeah I've been looking at the site Glenski, it's a bit confusing at times with it's many pages and definitions. Thanks for the tip Chi Chi. Seems like a cultural visa or student visa may be the best way to go . Other than that perhaps I could look at the options for a religious worker or artist. Since I am an artist perhaps she could some how qualify as my assistant. |
Seems like you are trying to sneak under the wire here
A missionary visa you have to invited by a recognised and established church in Japan. They will pay your living expenses here. You are not allowed to work full time and earn an income on this visa as far as I know. Mormon missionaries and Catholic nuns will come on this visa. |
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Gordon
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| harlandarlin wrote: |
| Yeah I've been looking at the site Glenski, it's a bit confusing at times with it's many pages and definitions. Thanks for the tip Chi Chi. Seems like a cultural visa or student visa may be the best way to go . Other than that perhaps I could look at the options for a religious worker or artist. Since I am an artist perhaps she could some how qualify as my assistant. |
Seems like you are trying to sneak under the wire here
A missionary visa you have to invited by a recognised and established church in Japan. They will pay your living expenses here. You are not allowed to work full time and earn an income on this visa as far as I know. Mormon missionaries and Catholic nuns will come on this visa. |
There are also a lot of Christian missionaries as well. Like Paul said, they are sponsored by a Church, work in a church and sometimes do p/t teaching to supplement their living. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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harlan,
If you are an artist, the only way she can qualify for any relation to that field is to meet the requirements.
Activities authorized to engage in:
Activities for the arts that provide income, including those carried out by composers, songwriters, artists, sculptors, craftspeople, photographers, etc.
Documents to be submitted: (note red item 2, does she qualify?)
1. Documents certifying the activity, its duration, and the position of the person concerned.
2. Material showing the achievements of the artistic activity of the person concerned.
To be your "assistant", you would have to have an artist's visa yourself with a job here, which means you can't teach English. It doesn't mean just because you are an artist back home, she can be labeled as an assistant and come here while you have a work visa for teaching. Not sure if you realized this. |
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harlandarlin
Joined: 02 Feb 2005
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Location: michigan
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if anything I am learning the visa laws don't make it simple to hang around too long. Each country has their own rules for visas and of course their own laws. I actually completely forgot about visa laws when i was planning on going to Japan. Ideally I'd love to teach english in japan, and perhaps from there work as an art teacher or be employed as an artist. I was thinking I'd stay there a couple of years and it would be a great way to travel around the region ,learn about the culture and people, make art, write, and earn a decent income.
I guess I feel a little mislead by the consulate cause i was under the impression when I applied for JET that bringing a relative over was a little less difficult. perhaps had I been accepted by jet it would be, who knows.
I don't see how people make japan their permanent or temorary home, cause these visa laws are tricky. I have no problem supporting my mom and I know she would enjoy visiting japan. But it would be nice to find a job that helps me with an apartment and doesn't mind her staying and then other than that , I'd like to find a visa status where my mom could stay a few years . Seems like cultural visa or schooling are the only options. I don't think she would mind missionary work , but that might be more of a stretch- checking her church to find out if it runs a program in japan , etc. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| I am learning the visa laws don't make it simple to hang around too long. |
Don't really know what to tell you, harlan. Visa laws are made to protect the country from excessive foreign labor (often illegal) or from undesireables (anyone from the unemployable to terrorists), not make it easy for foreigners to enter. Not really sure what you were thinking except for your own individual situation.
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| Ideally I'd love to teach english in japan, and perhaps from there work as an art teacher or be employed as an artist. |
If you work officially as a teacher, then as an artist, you will have to change your visa. If you teach officially, then sell paintings or sculptures on the side under the table, that's your own private business, just like giving private English lessons.
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| I was thinking I'd stay there a couple of years and it would be a great way to travel around the region ,learn about the culture and people, make art, write, and earn a decent income. |
Imagine a foreigner with little English ability trying to do that in New York City or London. It's essentially the same. Japan is one of the most expensive countries in the world, so saving money is dependent on where you live, as well as how. Look at www.pricechecktokyo.com for some sample prices on things. Work in Japan pretty much has its set vacation times, not times you can take at your leisure like in the USA. And, those designated times are almost always at the busiest travel times of the year for everyone, so lodging and transportation rates double or triple for that reason. Sightseeing is not exactly cheap here, and with the exception of hostels, you should expect to pay about 5000 yen just for a single night's lodging, but many places charge 2 to 3 times that. If you want a real traditional experience in a ryokan, you'll pay even more sometimes. Earning a "decent income" also depends on certain things. Conversation school teachers make a standard 250,000 yen/month salary, and in the past year or 2, some places are paying even less! It's enough for one to live on, but not really for two. Granted, many supplement this with private lessons or PT jobs, but that just cuts into your free time. Your FT job will often require 25-30 hours/week in the classroom alone, and you will still be expected to spend office time to prepare for those lessons. Not all employers insist on this, but a newbie teacher will need it. Then, there are the other reasons you will be expected to stay in the office to complete a 40 hour week: paperwork on student performance, lesson plan updates and progress reports, interviewing prospective students, hanging out in the lobby to attract students, etc. It's often a regular 40-hour/week job, so adding PT work or private lessons sucks away valuable time you'd otherwise want for sightseeing. And, conversation school jobs usually run from noon to 9pm, sometimes with your "weekend" consisting of two NON-consecutive days off. Again, not very conducive to seeing the country.
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| I feel a little mislead by the consulate cause i was under the impression when I applied for JET that bringing a relative over was a little less difficult. |
What exactly did they say? Places like JET permit you to bring people over on your own expense, but they are under no obligation to offer them anything to help them stay. That is, it is up to you and that person (whether a boyfriend/girlfriend, spouse, or relative) to meet long-term visa requirements.
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| I don't see how people make japan their permanent or temorary home, cause these visa laws are tricky. |
Not a good choice of word, "tricky". It is bureaucratic just like your own home country, as I mentioned above.
People make Japan (or any other country) their home abroad simply by following the visa laws. It's really not that big a deal unless you have a special situation like yours. Work visas (for teachers, anyway) can be for one year or three years, depending on the whims of immigration. If it's just a year, you do what you would back home to get a new job or renew the current one (and a new visa) in order to stay employed. |
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