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susu



Joined: 09 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:58 am    Post subject: Again ? Creative Youths Academy Reply with quote

Like Laura, I have been emailing with Creative Youths Academy. Am supposed to call them in a.m. and have a phone number. Any comments?
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niko60



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Susu,
Have you read my comments to Laura? Be careful! If you can send me their phone number, I'd love to have a chat with whoever is running this scam.
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laura1d



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Laura here.

After my initial bad feelings, coupled with Niko's comments that he was unable to locate this academy at the address given I have backed off totally. I did not reply to their email and heard nothing more.

Please be very careful when you call them - get as much information as you can and post it on here so someone in Greece can check it out if they have time (maybe Niko would be so kind?).

You are probably totally aware of scams and I don't want to teach you to suck eggs BUT.... Don't agree to give any money to them for any reason. There is no real reason you would have to shell out anything at all to 'get' a job.

All that said.. good luck!
I would be really interested in what happens so if you have time please let us all know.

Thanks
Laura
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susu



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Have phone number Reply with quote

Hi Laura and Niko,
Thanks so much for your replies. Do not feel so alone anymore. Have been in email communication with Joseph Shumiak(?sp. much check), sent him all documents (no money nor did he ask for any yet). After he received all documents, he asked me to call Dr. Fredich Bremer, Director General of the School, phone # 30-6946810833. I called him at 9 a.m. Eastern (Toronto, Canada) and as well as not being able to understand him very well, he's sounding slurry and sluggish. Told him I could not understand him very well and would try to call back. Could anyone else please try as I am fairly upset????

Thanks so much you guys and hopefully, this Doctor name and phone will reveal what we all need to know. Happy trails.

Sue
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laura1d



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Sue
Doesn't sound good eh. Don't be upset - at least you were prepared for this to go pear shaped. There are loads of jobs out there - just keep looking and don't be disheartened.

Niko,

Would you be able to ring this guy and see what the hell is going on with this outfit? If you can't then I will. My only problem is that at the moment I live and work in Thailand and it would cost me a bit to ring Greece. That said, I will if you can't for some reason.
Let me know.

Laura
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niko60



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear ladies ( Laura, and Sue),
I just got off the phone with some one who sounded decidedly African, I asked for Dr Frederick whatever, and Africa started getting defensive, I told them that I was interested in a job etc.etc., and was told that they only hire females, when I asked why Africa started claiming that he could'nt hear me ( it's a cell number by the way), first alarm bell. I then told him that I had passed by the address but could not locate them, if he could please give me directions, and that did it, where did you get this info? so on, and so on. He finally claimed he couldn't hear me and hung up, when I called back he had turned his phone off. This whole thing stinks from the get go, no verifiable address!, a cell phone, a yahoo email!, no web site, and finally what I've forgotten to tell you both, is that no language school I've ever heard of in Greece pays any where near that kind of money. As the saying goes " if it sounds too good to be true..... it probably is". Either way I still have another week before I go back to the KSA, and I'm definitely going to give this info to the Ministry of education/ fraud division so they can check it out. It sounds more like these guys are trying to do something alot "dodgier" than hire female only EFL teachers, I mean I can appreciate a good,smart scam, but this one is so blatantly idiotic they deserve to get busted. Well ladies, that's it for now I'll let you know what I've done after I've done it. Be well, and be careful.

Niko
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susu



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:26 pm    Post subject: gotta blast this scammer Reply with quote

Hi Laura and Niko,

You guys and gals are great. Sure appreciate your help. I have not tried back yet. I'm wondering if I should try emailing Shumaik again and giving him a piece of my mind. Is it truly a scam? Am I being too hopeful? Was there a reason for hiring females only? Or could Africa not hear that part of the conversation? Will check back and/or reply back for any follow up info. Thanks again.

Undisenheartened
susu
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niko60



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Sue,
First of all it's unheard of for a potential employee to be making the phone calls to be interviewed. Can you tell me where you heard of these bums so I can also give that info when I report this. I know laura said she found them on Idealist.org, when I checked there was nothing. I woudn't lose sleep over this there are alot of swindlers out there, but at least this time I think we can send this one packing. Be good.

Niko.
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laura1d



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Laura here,

I found it on Idealist - on the email they sent (Jan 27th) this was the link I followed:

English ,French and computer teachers wanted
creative youths international academy
Athens, Greece
Salary: 1150 Euro
http://www.idealist.org/en/jobs/123959:167/131291:119

The link no longer works though...

Susu, We live and learn eh!

Niko, You have been great to help with this - thanks!!!!

Laura
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vre



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote