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once again
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 815
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Err, Once Again your post was clearly aimed at tarnishing the reputation of the teacher involved by distorting the facts of his case and suggesting that proceeds of his book won't go to help tsunami victims. |
Let me test my comprehension skills here then. The post you are refering to is the post by ME. I figure this because you write: "Once Again YOUR post was"
So unless my comprehension is reallly poor today, the post you are refering to is by ME.
OK, quote from my posts and show me where I have done any of the things you accuse me of. I would be particulary interested to see my quote about the book. |
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once again
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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I take the lack of response to mean that you cannot find anywhere in my posts the things of which you accuse. |
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Horizontal Hero

Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 2492 Location: The civilised little bit of China.
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:28 am Post subject: |
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The long tradition of nasty littleness amongst NETS shows no sign of abating here. Why would anyonee bother posting here, - or on the other two sites that NET teachers post on - when all you get is beetching and back-stabbing?
So Mark wotsisname wrote a book and is giving proceeds to charity. I don't see that as a crime. But hey, why not just crucify him anyway? It will make us all feel better to know that someone is being shafted (and not us), regardless of any facts.
Perhaps any feelings of discomfort are more a reflection of the feeler than the felt. |
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once again
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 815
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:58 am Post subject: |
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You know, there would be many people who would have interrupted my original post as to mean:
"Don't you think that it is strange that the leader of the most militant and effective teacher support organisation in HK was fired and denied money for reasons that have shown to be mostly invalid. He successfully fought his own case, the only widely publicised case of its kind, and actually setting a precedent, and so is a man of experience and of proven worth in fighting for the rights of other teachers. Possibly one of the reasons for his dismissal might have been related to his work for such an effective organisation. Of which he is not paid."
On the other hand, there are people who would seem to believe that:
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So Mark wotsisname wrote a book and is giving proceeds to charity. I don't see that as a crime. But hey, why not just crucify him anyway? It will make us all feel better to know that someone is being shafted (and not us), regardless of any facts.
Perhaps any feelings of discomfort are more a reflection of the feeler than the felt. |
Perhaps any feelings of discomfort are down to those who have become so defensive and unable to see any comment as anything other than critisicm. Where on earth are these implied critisms comming from? Who is trying to crucify him? Give me some concrete examples.
I ask you again Saroq, where are my comments about the book? |
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Horizontal Hero

Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 2492 Location: The civilised little bit of China.
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Once again,
Sorry if I misunderstood you and the other fellow. But I think that you have to concede your original post would most likely be interpreted as a negative evaluation of the person in question. Anyway, I have been a bit miffed at much worse allegations appearing on another web site for NET teachers, where all sorts of sad innuendo is making the rounds (but I never write on that web site). If you look back through old threads on Daves (HK) you will see much of the same nastiness. |
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saroq
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 77
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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You really are tiresome Once Again.
My original posting was in response to the combined innuendo that you and Foster directed towards the character of the NET teacher who was unfairly sacked from his position for appearing in what you and Foster incorrectly described as a racy and dirty movie. Your intension was clear and that was to distort the facts around his case by using emotive and incorrect descriptions of the movie. In addition my response to both postings was that you two are suggesting that the ETA is an organization that cannot be trusted (see your pervious postings on the subject). I then wrote that if you and Foster were suggesting that he should have been sacked for appearing in the movie then should we accept that people who read certain books or who don't think as they are told to think should also lose their jobs. My lack of response is due to the fact that I live my life off line and don�t have time to obsess about your postings. |
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Scott in Incheon
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 58
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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I just finished reading this thread as it was getting heated and I wanted to where the heat came from...
Just a thought..if the teacher was performing a job outside his contract without his school's or the EMB's permission, then he broke his contract/work visa which forbids any work outside school without permission. Seems that could be seen as justification for being fired...especially if the movie didn't help the reputation of the school which we all know is a capital crime in HK school system... |
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once again
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Good to see that you have found sometime to obsess and respond to them now then Saroq. As for my original post being most likely evaluated as negative, that is what has amazed me. What did I write that was an allegation HH? ( I say this because you say you have been miffed at much worse allegations on other sites, and therefore draw the conclusion that you think that I made allegations)
Throughout modern literature and written English the use of quotation marks around a particular word has been used to show that the author of said script was repeating what had been said elsewhere, but did not neccesarily agree with it.
And Mr Saroq, for someone who does not obsess about my postings about the ETA, you have certainly found enough time to misinterpret them in a way that seems most unhealthy.
You now make allegations that my other posts on the subject were derogatory. PLEASE PLEASE I BEG YOU...quote me where I have said anything that is derogatory.
I think you will find that I have said only nice things about the organisation, were it not for the lack of comprehension skills of yourself. |
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once again
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Saroq, so if your post was about the combined posts of Foster and myself (although the fact that you use the word combined may be open to misinterpretaion) then are you willing to admit that:
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Err, Once Again your post was clearly aimed at |
should have actually been written as "your posts were" ?
I laud your ability to make the correct subject verb aggreement, but find it strange that if your mind was set on using "Your" in the plural then you ommitted both the plural noun and the consequent verb aggreement.
Not really a sign of someone who should be trusted with interpreting the meaning of posts, let alone suggesting that someone who reads a book is in any way the same as appearing in a movie.
Lets just examine that little idea of yours. You suggest that appearing in a movie that the principal doesn't like is analagous with reading a book the principal doesn't like. So lets see how this analogy pans out.....
Teacher of school appears in movie that school doesn't like. Many people may see it (which is the aim of every movie maker and distributer and cinema or seller of assorted discs/downloads). Teacher then publicises photos of the movie on a website that was apparently linked back to the teacher. Parents find out, school finds out. Parents/school not happy.
Saroq, please tell me if any of the facts above are incorrect.
Teacher reads a book that the principal doesn't like.
Nodbody finds out about it, including the principle or parents. The school does not feel embarrased by anything that they feel is inappropriate, parents do not complain..etc. etc...
In both cases the percieved "morality" of the book/film may not differ. The book may be just as "innocent as the movie". But the effect is very different.
I am IN NO WAY SUGGESTING THAT MARK ALDRED EVER DID OR WOULD THINK ABOUT DOING THIS IN PUBLIC>>AND THAT IS MY CAVEAT>>just in case Saroq wants to misquote me....
But my school has never asked me about my bowel movements..and provided I do them in private they have no problem with them. (even at school) But if I chose to do a movie where I was publicly intimating at bowel movements and then had a website that publcised it, then I guess they would have something to say...as would the parents.
OK Saroq, I have given you a lot to go there, but I hope you don't obsess and respond. |
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danielb

Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 490
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have to be qualified to teach in your home country to be eligible for the EMB Net scheme?
Reading the EMB website I think I have the qualifications but I have read a lot of posts on this forum that make reference to being able to teach at home. I have a PGCE (TESOL) but it was an online course. I will soon finish MEd (TESOL) which follows on from the PGCE I have completed. My first degree is BA (Political Science), LLB.
If I don�t have the qualifications for the NET scheme what else would I need to complete?
I have e-mailed the EMB with respect to this question but was referred on to the EMB website.
Thanks |
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danielb

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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Why assume it would cause me any heartache? Perhaps I don�t have the resources to gain the qualifications but perhaps I do. I have learned a lot during my course so I don�t consider it rubbish. I found the course content at least as difficult as law school. Thanks for the information anyway. |
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Scott in Incheon
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 58
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Most NETs buy a house or two on the mainland after one contract....
I was a NET for six years...and I didn't meet anyone who bought a house across the border...let alone two...most might be a bit of an overstatement...I certainly didn't.... |
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