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Tremac
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 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:42 pm Post subject: Where can I teach without a diploma or experience? |
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I'm a Canadian planning on going to El Salvador next year to teach, but after that, I have no clue.
I got the TEFL certificate from onlinetefl.com because I was naive and thought that would help me... but which countries can I get a job without much experience.
And no volunteer work, I need atleast enough to survive.
I heard for the longest time that China was great for newbies, but now I'm hearing I need a diploma?
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ls650
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| Well, you can get work in Indonesia and China with just an online TEFL Certificate - though I wouldn't recommend you go out of your way to point out to potential employers that it was earned online. If you have any experience teaching, make sure you put that on your resume. |
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Guy Courchesne
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If you have some time, why not go find some vounteer experience where you are now? you can look into a language school, an immigration organization, a church, etc.
Or...look into a TEFL internship, prior to a teaching job. There are some around. |
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jpvanderwerf2001
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I got the TEFL certificate from onlinetefl.com because I was naive and thought that would help me... but which countries can I get a job without much experience.
And no volunteer work, I need atleast enough to survive.
I heard for the longest time that China was great for newbies, but now I'm hearding I need a diploma? |
Be ready for copious replies full of inflammatory pomposity.
Good luck with finding a job. I too have met people who taught in China w/o a degree or certification. |
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Glenski
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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If you are Canadian 18 to 30 years old, you can apply for the working holiday visa. No degree required. It's only good once in your life, though, and good for only one year. That will allow you to work in Japan, anyway.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/index.html |
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Tremac
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What's the Internship?
And volunteer... Anyone know of any good ones in Asia where I don't have to pay -them- loads of money to go help?
Thanks guys, I appreciate you helping out a noob. |
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Guy Courchesne
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| What's the Internship? |
Tefl International offers (or used to) an internshop with Nike in Thailand I believe. Global Education Corp offers a variety of internships around the world, and we offer strictly teaching internships in a few places in Latin America.
Not sure on volunteering in Asia. You could check with the VSO (just google that). |
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Tremac
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The VSO site said it was only available to citizens of the UK, and I'm only part of the commonwealth... T.T
Do you happen to have a webpage for the Global Education Corp? |
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Guy Courchesne
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Deconstructor
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Look dude, this is TEFL which means that the greener you are the better. You are young and speak English. That's like saying you have a Ph.D in astrophysics and a professorship at MIT. Your chances of not finding a job overseas are as miniscule as those of an 85 year old granny�s giving birth to twins.
Go get em, tiger. Show em how you speak English.
Psst: Adjectives go before nouns.
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amandajoy99
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You don�t need any experience to work as a teacher trainee in Brazil: for info go to www.mgt.com.br/icbeu and click on "teacher trainee handbook." in all likelihood you will not actually be a "trainee" but a full teacher with your own classes...and a legal visa.
You could also be a language assistant in France. http://www.ciep.fr/en/assistantetr/. In that case you really are an assistant - responsible for 12 hours of conversation classes a week.
I would stay away from Global Education Corp. I think they charge high fees for their programs and assign you a "volunteer" status. With IICA and with the French assistantship, you get paid. With IICA you pay a reasonable application fee and then get a modest �living allowance�(officially to qualify for the visa you can�t get paid) and free room and board.
I�ve done both of these (well, am doing the program in Brazil at the moment) so would be happy to answer questions about them. I think the Fulbright program also has teaching assistantships in various countries. Good luck. |
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Tremac
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Well I'm glad to see MOST of you are helpful...
Thanks guys, at this point, I'll be willing to take anything I can get.
BTW, does speaking more than one language help? I speak English, French, Spanish, and I'm learning Russian, Arab and Korean right now. Will that only help me if I go to the respective country? |
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Deconstructor
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| Tremac wrote: |
Well I'm glad to see MOST of you are helpful...
Thanks guys, at this point, I'll be willing to take anything I can get.
BTW, does speaking more than one language help? I speak English, French, Spanish, and I'm learning Russian, Arab and Korean right now. Will that only help me if I go to the respective country? |
Yeah but can you teach English?!
Look I don't mean to be a wiseass (well, maybe a little). I speak a few myself besides wiseasslish. All those languages will not make your teaching any easier, but certainly you will make friends faster not to mention you won't be lost and confused all the time. Unless, of course, you believe those who tell you that using students' FIRST language is actually part of teaching a SECOND language. If, however, you do listen to them, then you will truly be an EFLer. So you see, you can't lose no matter what you do. This is the beauty of EFL. ANYTHING GOES. |
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Tremac
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That's why I need some kinda internship. I've never really formally taught a class before. Well, I've presented "The Catcher in the Rye" to the ESL class in my school in Belgium and I've taught them some expressions, but never really taught.
I'm never said I thought I was equal to any of you experienced teachers, I just wanted to know where I could teach without a diploma. |
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Deconstructor
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That's why I need some kinda internship. I've never really formally taught a class before. Well, I've presented "The Catcher in the Rye" to the ESL class in my school in Belgium and I've taught them some expressions, but never really taught.
I'm never said I thought I was equal to any of you experienced teachers, I just wanted to know where I could teach without a diploma. |
Do the CELTA if you don't have time and money for university. That's what most do. |
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