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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Way, way off course.
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 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:41 am Post subject: Re: reapply for post jet |
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| prlester wrote: |
i am a former jet. did one year 03-04. i think i already know the answer, but what is stopping a former jet from reapplying? Is there a database somewhere where you would be flagged and automatically taken out of the pool? Has anyone ever tried to do this?
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You'd have to lie on the application form where it asks if you've ever done JET. Name and passport numbers for those interviewing are run against prior years btw, so you'd probably be picked up at that point.
You did know you can re-apply after a ten year gap, didn't you? Why did you only stay a year?
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Also, it seems that the earlham program is pretty similar, except that it is even more inaka then JET.
Is job security for working as a private alt comparable to jet?
anyone hear of this? |
Earlham is no more inaka than JET. Most of the Earlham programme ALTs are placed in Iwate ken. You're just as rural as any of the JET programme ALTs in Iwate. Or Akita or Amorii, for that matter. The difference is that you have even less support available to you than you do on JET. And just like JET, some of the Earlham positions *really* suck. Just as some of them are *really* good. |
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G Cthulhu
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Location: Way, way off course.
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My application was SOLID and I had a good idea what they were going to be looking for so I purposely padded those areas.
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Would you be willing to post your essay/SOP here. Really. I would like to read it and offer comments. Or, if you prefer, you can email it to me - PM me to organise something.
The only other thing that matters, aside from what your references did and didn't say, is the placements you asked for and your degree. Your marks don't matter, but your degree major does (and, to a lessor extent, your university). But the essay is the most important thing.
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I guess I just feel like they need to be hassled a bit seeing that I spent so long getting this application ready for them. I am being petty, but hey, I just want a little piece of mind I guess. |
About the attitude.....
IMO JET is *very* much about flexibility and not being upset over set-backs. |
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goman72
Joined: 11 Aug 2004
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Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia.
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G Cthulhu, I would have to disagree with you on what you say about the CELTA. From my sources I am told that CELTA is VERY highly regarded in Japan, maybe not in the BoE (where I could understand nobody has heard of it) but in other areas (especially in the Kaishas) it is.
The only other qualifications surpassing CELTA would be MA or PhD in TESOL-related postgraduate degree disciplines.
Yes, what you say about JET is very true, it is an educational exchange program, and they are more interested in the cultural package you could provide the Japanese learners, but in the application it does state that the applicant should be qualified or or have an interest in teaching and willing to be qualified in some teaching discipline (there are even several boxes that need to be filled that address this).
Anyway, I believe that every little thing counts and a combination of these things plus a well written application, good references (as you say: from respectable people) all bode well to a favourable response...
I'm tired and off to get some sleep! |
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Gordon
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan
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The only other qualifications surpassing CELTA would be MA or PhD in TESOL-related postgraduate degree disciplines.
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I can't see how you can compare a CELTA with a masters or PhD. One takes a month and the others take years. A CELTA is an intro to teaching EFL and nothing more. Granted it is a good certificate (I do have one), but that is all. |
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goman72
Joined: 11 Aug 2004
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Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia.
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Gordon,
Once someone gets a CELTA and has been teaching for say 2 or 3 years, what (from your observations) have been the next EFL qualifications people have gone on to attain?
I am interested as I'd like to know how I can progress in the EFL arena from my current BA(Hons) / CELTA plus teaching experience.
Thanks,
CG |
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Gordon
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan
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| goman72 wrote: |
Gordon,
Once someone gets a CELTA and has been teaching for say 2 or 3 years, what (from your observations) have been the next EFL qualifications people have gone on to attain?
I am interested as I'd like to know how I can progress in the EFL arena from my current BA(Hons) / CELTA plus teaching experience.
Thanks,
CG |
They could either get their DELTA or Masters degree (most commonly in TESOL or Applied Linguistics). It depends on what sort of route you would like to go. Most people have more than 2-3 years of teaching experience before they start either of these qualifications. First, see how you like teaching. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Location: Japan
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| goman72 wrote: |
The only other qualifications surpassing CELTA would be MA or PhD in TESOL-related postgraduate degree disciplines.
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There are a lot of options for training to teach English language between a one-month certificate and an MA or PhD.
I have a one-year teaching certificate in TESL from a university in Canada (granted, many people use it as a stepping stone to get into an MA in Applied Linguistics- it's a prerequesite for an MA in TEFL). A CELTA and about $6.50 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks in Ontario, Canada nowadays. It won't even get you any exemptions from the one-year certificate programmes. It used to be accepted and many of the people who have been teaching for years have exactly that qualification (and they have the government certification through a grandparenting scheme). But then, previously people who wanted to teach in the k-12 system went to a Normal School instead of a university, and now you need a university degree as well as a one-year B.Ed.
CELTA just has a giant PR machine so it has very good brand recognition.
But then, so does McDonalds. |
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