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kevinyam



Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:29 pm    Post subject: moving out of Nova apartments Reply with quote

I'm about to start a job here at Nova and I'm looking at finding my own apartment now. I'm just wondering how difficult is it to get out of the Nova apartments. I know I have to give thirty days notice, but if I give the notice on say March 5th, does that mean that I will have to pay for the entire month of April because I won't be out by the start of the month??

I don't really care if I'm stuck paying for one or two weeks rent at Nova after I've moved out, but I don't want to be stuck in this apartment until the end of April.

any Nova teachers know how this works??
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worlddiva



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don`t know for sure as i don`t work for nova but I know people that do. She did not like her Nova accomodations and decided to move out. She had to pay 2 months rent plus an extra week....definitely check the dates for giving in a notice as it works with the first of the month and not your pay period...at least that`s what she told me yesterday.

that`s all I got.
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canuck



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

worlddiva wrote:
I don`t know for sure as i don`t work for nova but I know people that do. She did not like her Nova accomodations and decided to move out. She had to pay 2 months rent plus an extra week....definitely check the dates for giving in a notice as it works with the first of the month and not your pay period...at least that`s what she told me yesterday.

that`s all I got.


This is wrong. They tell you at orientation that you can move out anytime, just give 30 days notice. That's it. You can move out mid month. Ask them.
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Mike L.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be pro rated by the day!

Do a search on this site for "CO-OP housing" or "Danchi" and you may come up with some other alternatives!
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worldwidealive



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is wrong. They tell you at orientation that you can move out anytime, just give 30 days notice. That's it. You can move out mid month. Ask them.


Canuck is correct. If you give 30 days notice tomorrow (there is a form you have to fill out), then you will only pay rent for the next 30 days. No questions asked. It's easy and should be considered.

WWA
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nicyvesweet



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I may ask: what was wrong with the Nova apartment?

Not being a toad, I'm supposed to be staying in one when I arrive and I'd really like to know your grievance.
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worldwidealive



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I may ask: what was wrong with the Nova apartment?


Actually, my Nova place was nice. It was in a building that was only about 5 years old. Very modern and in good shape. In a nutshell, without too much whining, here are the three things that I think most people find wrong with Nova's places:

- Being charged well over the market price for rent. We had 3 people each paying 60,000 Yen a month. I moved into an equally nice place with 2 "bedrooms" (a 2LDK in Japanese apartment talk) with a friend and we are paying 65,000 total on rent. We spend about another 10-12,000 a month on utilities and so we each save about US$200 a month.

- Typically being placed with 2 roommates that you may or may not get along with. Add this to the fact that they come and go pretty quickly. A guy I work with had 5 different roommates in 6 months. Everyone can work different schedules and everyone has their ideas of what "clean", "quiet", and "respect" mean.

- Contrary to mine, I have seen some Nova places that are fairly old and in need of some serious refurbishment. That isn't going to happen with the revolving door of renters however.

That said, Nova always repaired and replaced things when asked in my experience. If you plan to be here a year or less, then you will likely lose money in the long-run, but the ease of staying with Nova may be worth it to you. If you even *think* that you will be here for longer, then spend your first 30-days settling in and looking for another option. Take advantage of the Nova place for the first 60 days tops. They don't make you feel guilty for leaving and it won't affect your standing as an employee. Consider that your trainer and other "management" in the office are 95% likely NOT to be living in Nova accommodation.

WWA
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johanne



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I have to agree with worldwidealive. I lived in a Nova apartment for 1 year in Kanazawa. I was lucky that at the time Nova had just opened their first school there and I had a 3 bedroom apartment to myself for 3 months. However, after those 3 months an arrogant little twit moved in and it was hell for 2 months until he decided to stop whining about how awful Japan was and moved back to England. I was then on my own for another month before another teacher came. I was paying 60,000 yen and it was a nice place. There was a swimming pool on the roof, although it was only opened for 2 months (I don't know why as it was hot enough about 5 months of the year). A third teacher came and he was really getting ripped off since the 3rd bedroom was little more than a glorified storage room - it didn't even have a closet. Luckily for him I moved out a month later, to move in with my boyfriend where I only had to pay half of the 40,000 rent on a 2DK.

I had had the nicest room in the NOVA apartment - with tatami and a large Japaense style closet, so the 3rd teacher was able to move into the 2nd nicest room while the 2nd teacher took my room. This is essentially the problem with NOVA - you never know who who'll be living with or exactly what kind of room you're going to get, even if the apartment itself is nice. Definately find your own place if you're staying more than a year.
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Rorschach



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a mixed bag with Nova apartments. Some of the people I came over with landed in beautiful apartments. I saw one in Kita-Tatsumi (Osaka) that was huge. My apartment on the other hand was a pigsty. I was the first one there. My apartment had recently been vacated by two outgoing teachers but there was still one guy in the apartment who had been there for about 10 months (French branch teacher) and another guy was coming in from Scotland on the same day as me. I was dropped of by one of the Nova admin staff, given a key and told good luck.

I was staggered how bad the apartment was, I was shocked. The toilet smelled like a septic tank and there were brown stains on the wall. The kitchen area was just as bad, the floor was sticky and the sink was piled high with dirty dishes. My room was big but filthy, the carpet had all sorts of bugs crawling through it. My first three hours in the apartment I decided to move out as soon as possible. I had to stick it out in that apartment for 2 months saving the money to move. It was tough because with Nova you are paying rent in arrears but with a normal apartment you have to pay in advance. So for one month I had to pay rent on two places at once, it almost broke me (those first 3 months were perhaps the worst for me).

Nova accomodation is good if you only intend to stay a year. If you have even an inkling that you will stay longer find another place because you are being overcharged on rent. I would have stayed in my apartment had it been cleaned before I came and I lived with people I got along with (entirely different story).
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kevinyam



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's good that you can leave at any point in the month and not have to pay the full month.

My apartment just isn't worth the rent I'm paying. Heater barely works, stains all over the carpets,and a 4.5 mat bedroom with a closet barely big enough to fit 1/3 of a normal persons wardrobe.
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worlddiva



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry about the misinformation...I was just telling you what a Nova teacher told me. Smile
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worldwidealive



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johanne has another point, and that reminds me. (I am assuming that you are female, Johanne) That is something else that happened to a co-worker. She was a woman and had a man move into her apartment for 2 months during a "housing crunch". She was not pleased that she was in a co-ed living environment with a strange man. Although she got along with him well in the end, the lack of privacy is bad enough in Japanese apartments without having to be "properly dressed" at all times in your own home.

WWA
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kev7161



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why assume - - - when someone says "they" are moving in with a boyfriend - - - that person is a female? Be careful!

Also, I'm thinking of coming to Japan in the fall. Don't know if I'd be working for Nova, but I really like living on my own - - are all Nova apartments shared?
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worldwidealive



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why assume - - - when someone says "they" are moving in with a boyfriend - - - that person is a female? Be careful!


I figured someone would have to comment on that. I wrote that "I assume" because I wasn't sure, but was going on the commonly used female name of "Johanne". Let's not get strangely PC - there is no need be careful. "Johanne" can hop back on and say that, actually, in fact, he is gay and moved in with his partner/boyfriend. That's all well and fine. I only brought it up as a lead in to my story on co-ed living. Jheesh. Rolling Eyes

Anyway, to answer your question, yes Nova does offer some single accommodation, but typically only in the bigger cities. I knew of one guy who made a request from the UK and actually got one as his apartment when he arrived. That is rare however - typically you have to wait until one opens up and make a transfer to it. They are very small, one room apartments (but normal for Japanese standards) and they too are overpriced and iffy on quality. In Osaka they rent for 72,000 Yen+. Again, if a single place is what you want, you'd be better finding one for yourself after you settle in. Many people go this route as opposed to having a roommate.

WWA
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johanne



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I am female. I personally didn't mind sharing with guys - it was more the fact of what a idiot one of them was. However, NOVA didn't offer me a choice here. There were only 5 teachers on staff as it was a small school and they had 2 apartments available for all of us to share and the numbers never worked out to have a "female" and a "male" apartment. To tell you the truth, I don't think NOVA cares at all about this point. The other apartment had a couple sharing with a male teacher and yes, each member of the couple was paying rent to NOVA. They found their own place after a couple of months.
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