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Can I find work just for the summer?

 
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: Can I find work just for the summer? Reply with quote

Hello,

My girlfriend and I are moving to Taipei this summer. I am planning on staying for a year while my girlfriend will only be in Taipei for the summer.

My question is will it be a problem for my girlfriend to find work just for the summer?

We have both taught in the mainland. But this time we would like to work in Taiwan.

Thanks,

Gregory
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JZer



Joined: 16 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could work for ALV summer camp but you would have to travel around the country all summer. They bring you back to Taipei and other cities every weekend. You would have to stay in a hotel all summer.
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I was asking for my girlfriend. I wanted to arrive in Taiwan before July.

I am going to stay for a year while she would have just been there for the summer. But it sounds like it take some time for her to find work and she would probably be working illegally. In which case she would probably return to Europe without any extra cash.

Therefore we're probably going to work in the mainland for the summer then I'm going to go to Taiwan in September or October and start looking for work.

Gregory
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Aristotle



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wages and working conditions continue to deteriorate on Taiwan for Foreign Teachers as a direct result of the Taiwan Ministry of Education's race based policies and outright ban on English Language Learning in schools.

http://www.geocities.com/taiwanteacher2002/Success.html
Good luck,
A
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aristotle,

Is this true? I've seen you post this before.

But then again I should mention that I am coming to Taiwan to study Tai Chi. So as long as I make enough to pay the bills I will be happy.

But I am curious to know if these policies effect teaching adults classes too. As I have been teaching kids English in Europe for two years now I think I could use a change and just focus on teaching advanced adults. Are you saying that it is more difficult to find work teaching adults?

Gregory
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gregoryfromcali wrote:
Aristotle,

Is this true? I've seen you post this before.


This is a good question and as Aristotle was posting this information as a reply to your post I am sure that he would be only too happy to expand upon his claims with some evidence.

For what it's worth, I don't agree.
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Aristotle



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this true? I've seen you post this before.



http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=20836
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aristotle wrote:
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Is this true? I've seen you post this before.



http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=20836


Is that link meant to mean something?

It doesn't have any relevance to teachers' pay rates, and is your post anyway.

If you really want to prove that you have any information about your claim then you are really going to have to provide a valid source to back it up. I don't agree with your claim, and unless you support it then you are just going to continue to look silly!
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puiwaihin



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:57 am    Post subject: Aristotle's Information Reply with quote

The information on the link Aristotle provided contains some good points.

Agents typically set you up with schools that have high turnover rates and are middlemen taking some of your pay. You are better off finding work on your own.

Large chain schools give teachers somewhat below average pay and can afford to replace you, so they may not treat you as well as some smaller but also well-established schools.

Teacher contracts can be a problem so be careful with what you are signing.

His assertion that the pay situation is worsening is a different matter, though. It seems more a matter of supply and demand than government policy to me.
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone had the experience of just working for a couple of months in Taiwan?

We're going to do it but I not sure what we should tell them.

Thanks in advance.
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: Aristotle's Information Reply with quote

puiwaihin wrote:
Agents typically set you up with schools that have high turnover rates and are middlemen taking some of your pay. You are better off finding work on your own.


Considering the comments of an agent in a discussion on this board just recently, I think it safe to agree with puiwaihin on this. I am not so sure that it is typical for agents to set you up with schools that have a high turnover of teachers, but in most cases they are setting you up with schools that for one reason or another can't find teachers on their own. I think the reasons for this are a bit of a mixed bag. Sometimes the school has such a bad reputation that the only way they can get a teacher is through the name of a recruiter, sometimes the school is in an out of the way place, sometimes their deal is not competitive, but mostly the administration are not confident enough to handle the employment process of a foreigner.

puiwaihin wrote:
Large chain schools give teachers somewhat below average pay and can afford to replace you, so they may not treat you as well as some smaller but also well-established schools.


You get less in your pocket than many smaller schools, but there is value in the training etc that they provide. In those smaller schools you are often left to your own devices, and lesson planning and preparation can be time consuming. Then there is the consideration as to how many hours you can get, often more at a chain school than an independant. In the end I believe that it pretty much equals out.

Teacher contracts can be a problem so be careful with what you are signing.

puiwaihin wrote:
His assertion that the pay situation is worsening is a different matter, though.


I am still waiting for him to supply any shred of evidence that this is true!
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