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NEWBIE HELP!!! Jinan VS. Xi'an
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lagerlout2006



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dajiang I agree the train is more fun (if you can get soft class which seemss to be impossible these days) but he will be in Beijing airport with bags. It will not be FUN to haul suitcases through PEK and navigate a way to the rail station and then fight your way through ticket touts and try to get a soft seat. I'm no expert but it's been difficult to get soft seats for a long time time now. I don't know why. It's not because of foreigners anyway.

Should be easier for him to fly. I would guess 400 RMB. And to the OP not DOLLARS -----Yuan. 400 Yuan. Buy it here . Xian? No Xian! Worry about Xian later!
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Daphne



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to inform you that once you arrive in Jinan you'll find out that signing up to teach in an AES branch in Shandong is not the best or safest of career moves-- the "school" that your working in was one of three in the province till a couple of years ago, but now it's the only one remaining .
There is technically a branch in Qingdao but it basically does not hire native speakers on a full-time basis due to lack of students and it's "managed" by Jinan (a few hundred kilometers away!.)

That the Qingdao branch is in this state despite having a prime downtown location in a city of roughly 8,000,000 souls is telling enough Rolling Eyes
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cranberrycranberry



Joined: 21 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:14 am    Post subject: JINAN is my choice! Reply with quote

I've picked Jinan and I'm excited. Thanks for all the info!
I will fly from Beijing to Jinan (not the train <what is soft cell?> as I think haulin' suitcases ain't so cool). What 400RMB? Sweet! That's good. I'll purchase it the day of! AES said I should bring a phrasebook so I can get a ticket. Plus, I 'll get somebody to write out some phrases for me prior to my departure.

To the forumer who suggested flychina.com - the prices are still steep. I think purchasing the tix at the airport is better. I just hope there are many flights a day. I don't want to be in Beijing overnight.

Thanks for the precautionary tips! Closing down Shangdong branches may not be a bad thing...hopefully!

Yes, money is an issue. I reallly need to know how to convert my dollars!
ie: to purchase my plane ticket.

Apparently, AES will give an ATM card in China.
btw, I asked lots of details about my teaching situation. I'll be teaching 18 kids w/ a translator on the side.

cheers
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Captain Yossarian



Joined: 05 May 2004
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Location: Dongbei

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daphne wrote:
I hate to inform you that once you arrive in Jinan you'll find out that signing up to teach in an AES branch in Shandong is not the best or safest of career moves-- the "school" that your working in was one of three in the province till a couple of years ago, but now it's the only one remaining .
There is technically a branch in Qingdao but it basically does not hire native speakers on a full-time basis due to lack of students and it's "managed" by Jinan (a few hundred kilometers away!.)

That the Qingdao branch is in this state despite having a prime downtown location in a city of roughly 8,000,000 souls is telling enough Rolling Eyes




Hey Cranberrycranberry,

I hope that you are having a wonderful experience at one of the three AES schools in Jinan. The Chinese staff at all the schools are probably my favourite people in the whole world. There are times when your schedule will be tough but hopefully you are not sharing an apartment someone who writes a complete load of faff like the poster above. AES has a fantastic reputation in Jinan - all three locations are well known and respected in the city. What Daphne's personal bugbear with the company is I don't care - but I hate it when people lie to express their personal anger - you are then just as bad as anyone you complain about.


[quote="NateM
I'm not saying "stay away from AES at all costs" here, but expecting a Chinese educational organization to treat you with respect and dignity because you're "a nice person" is something I would say is "dangerously naive". You might get lucky and have a great experience, but approaching it from that angle seems to me like you are begging to get screwed over and steamrolled.[/quote]

Isn't it 'dangerously naive' to call AES a Chinese educational organization when it is American?
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jg



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked Jinan. Its great for biking, and though polluted, there are lots of shady little side streets with interesting shops and GREAT food. Near the Sofitel there are two quite nice Korean joints (I mean the eating kind, not smoking). The people there were very nice, I much preferred them to the Shanghainese. There are two main foreigner bars within walking distance of each other - Pyramid and a laid back, well appointed place. Thats not a knock against the other bars, some of which are dandy in their own right. Those narrow alleys full of food kiosks and trinket huts are all over the place too.

It gets hot as a mofo in the summer but there is a really nice tradition of sitting on these little wooden stools outside, drinking cold brewskis and eating mudbugs (xiao long xia) and peanuts and green beans. There are some good bookstores in town, and there is a nice pedestrian mall in the downtown area, its new and well-maintained. Ah, Jinan!!

AES has (had?) a dormitory on the grounds of a private school thats a 30 - 40 minute bus ride but a 20 minute bike ride. The building is nice, though it does suck to have to wake up the guard to get in late.

When I worked for AES i chose Jinan over other cities because I wanted to see "real" China, and I have never regretted my choice. For me, Xian was sleazy and overrated. I spent a week there, and that was a week too long.

Its super easy to get from Beijing to Jinan on the train, just be sure to go to the right departure station. Lastly, I would like to say that Jinan being sleepy has its advantages - after the late-evening you will have the streets to yourself! Then you can get housed and ride your bike around town in relative safety, wheeeeeeee!

I hope you have as much fun in Jinan as I did!! Very Happy Very Happy
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Daphne



Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to inform the Captain that there was not a single lie in my previous post regarding AES branches in Shandong, and if he thinks there was,then he should prove it Evil or Very Mad
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