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cujobytes



Joined: 14 May 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:14 am    Post subject: YA Reply with quote

I'm getting it from a 'Robert Lubeck' Last week it was jonathon bourne. You know it's the famous Ludwig troll from Hong Kong who used to inhabit the China off topic forum. Abusing everyone and everything untill he get's kicked off and comes back under another guise. He's a total whack job, bitter and twisted, lonely little loser of a man with too much time on his hands.
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merlin



Joined: 10 May 2004
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Location: Somewhere between Camelot and NeverNeverLand

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy - you have a fan! I'm jealous Laughing

Seriously, though - treat him just as you would any other pervert stalker.
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Stephen Jones



Joined: 21 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The strange thing is that Robert Lubeck aka Ludwig aka Prawn knows a load more about linguistics and English syntax than anybody else on this forum.

Why he needs to go round insulting, when he can win most arguments without it I don't know.
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carnac



Joined: 30 Jul 2004
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Location: in my village in Oman ;-)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's called mental illness, that's why.
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merlin



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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whoever knows a load more about linguistics and English syntax than anybody else on this forum

Irrelevant. A pedophile might know more about child psychology than anyone on this forum but that doesn't mean he'll make a good teacher or that his views are more valued than anyone else's.

I don't even bother to keep up with their names. Who cares, really.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here's silly me thinking that knowing something about English syntax and linguistics might be relevant to EFL.

If you ever get diagnosed by a doctor who can't even remember the names of the different parts of your anatomy just remember "who cares really". Afte all he's not a pedophile.
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merlin



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much knowledge of linguistics did your mother and father have when you were learning to speak?

I'm sure you're exstatic when your Arab students say ANYTHING. If even one of them ever vaguely comprehend the fine differences in meaning between the present perfect simple and present perfect continuous or likes infinitive verses likes -ing it'd be the high point of your career I wager.

Dont confuse your analogies. TEFL isn't brain surgery but a whacko is a whacko wherever you go.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How much knowledge of linguistics did your mother and father have when you were learning to speak?


Nobody was taught to speak by their mother and father, as anybody with the slightest knowledge of linguistics knows full well.

Having a good knowledge of English grammar is necessary for teachng EFL, not because it enables you to explain more, but because it gives you the confidence to explain less.

I've stated it on another thread but the average teacher should
    Have a much more up-to-date and thorough knowledge of English grammar than he normally has.
    Explain much less explicit grammar to his students than he normally does.


Anyway, if we are talking about the value of an individual's contributions to this forum. his ability as a teacher is almost completely irrelevant. You can be a great teacher and have nothing useful to say here, or the opposite.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, we're not talking about an individual's contributions to this forum. We're talking about a few cranks who have little else to do but send out spam. Your defense of this kind of thing is unfortunate as well Stephen. You otherwise provide good insights, but you make yourself look foolish on this one.
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Sekhmet



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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Location: Alexandria, Egypt

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally (and this is just me) I don't see where people get off sending stuff like that to people they never met. I feel bad for people who get mails like that, and also to a certain extent for people who feel they have to send them - it's clearly a massive insecurity in their own lives. I wonder, do they spend their lives cleaning toilets? Were they bullied as children?? We'll probably never know... But even so, they deserve a certain amount of pity, since they can't have fulfilling lives without this type of thing... IMO...
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yannick



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

filter it then
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not defending Ludwig's harrassing you or spamming you. I was just remarking that I could never understand why he had to be so aggressive considering how much he did know. In general the 'arseholes are those who know nothing.

My last post was defending the use and relevence of a knowledge of linguistics and syntax, not Ludwigs methods.
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carnac



Joined: 30 Jul 2004
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Location: in my village in Oman ;-)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no defending this sort of person in any way. I'm certain there are any number of mentally-ill scheisskopfs who are well-versed in linguistics and syntax, which one might research by doing a survey of hostels for the criminally insane. Personally, having recieved numerous unsolicited messages from this creep, I would love to take his syntactual acumen and shove it down his throat or up somewhere else. There is such a thing as being too "understanding" and "forgiving". Enough PC. Education or no, he is scum.
Next post, maybe I'll tell you what I REALLY think of him.
There are times when the vermin become a little too obstreperous. This is one.
I have begun by contacting his ISPs with his PC track. The move following this may prove to be interesting. We'll see how long this creep keeps sending obscene spams.
And if I can lose him his job, I will welcome his personal visit. (Posted since I know he's reading this.)
Lose my sense of humor? Nahhh, never! Very Happy
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange, I never get any messages from him. And as a fan of Chomsky and Pinker I must be right at the top of his hit list.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if perhaps your friends' email addresses have been hijacked then? The latest round of spam smacks suspiciously of chinglish, as so many have described in the China forum.
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