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AnchorMan



Joined: 21 Nov 2004
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Location: Bangjak, Bangkok

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:57 pm    Post subject: Citizenship? Reply with quote

I understand the visa requirement for teaching in Thailand, but if I were to meet and marry a local, does that grant me citizenship?
If so, what is the situation re dual citizenship? Would I have to give mine up in order to get theirs?

ps I ask these questions in this forum as some previous threads have had thai-caucasian relationship themes as the subject matter.
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JosephP



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thai citizenship? What ever for?
I believe there are different rules for farang men married to Thai women and farang women married to Thai men.
I'm married to a Thai woman and the idea of acquiring Thai citizenship has never crossed my mind. I don't see as there would be any advantage. Perhaps so, but I don't know what it would be.
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AnchorMan



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thai citizenship? What ever for?


Ok, how about residency then? I'm just going by previous experience in the UK. There, because I had residency rights I was able to work with no restrictions on type of employment and length of stay. Here, in NZ arranged marraiges (at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars) are not unheard of. If I could get wedded and work and live as does a Thai citizen, without the thought of being busted as a overstayer and booted out, that may be a worthwhile consideration.
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sigmoid



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Burgundy! What are you doing in Thailand? Get kicked off the channel 4 news team again?

Marrying a Thai doesn't even really help you get a normal visa, does it? And what happened to Veronica Corningstone?

For this kind of info you might consult the experts at
http://www.thaivisa.com/

Anyway, if you want to work legally in Thailand, you get a real job that helps you get a one year visa and a work permit.
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AnchorMan



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sigmoid wrote:
Ron Burgundy! What are you doing in Thailand? Get kicked off the channel 4 news team again?

Marrying a Thai doesn't even really help you get a normal visa, does it? And what happened to Veronica Corningstone?

For this kind of info you might consult the experts at
http://www.thaivisa.com/


Never heard of the above persons. Anyway, thanks for the link.
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isanity



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Residency requires marrying a Thai and paying about a hundred thousand baht. Neither is worth it to make working here easier, which I don't think it does anyway. Wink
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kenkannif



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:41 am    Post subject: Re: Citizenship? Reply with quote

AnchorMan wrote:
I understand the visa requirement for teaching in Thailand, but if I were to meet and marry a local, does that grant me citizenship?
If so, what is the situation re dual citizenship? Would I have to give mine up in order to get theirs?

ps I ask these questions in this forum as some previous threads have had thai-caucasian relationship themes as the subject matter.


Okay marrying a Thai means you can obtain a Non-imm O Visa (for spousal support) which means you'll still have to leave the country every 90 days (but you should be able to get a multiple from a lot of places meaning you'll be covered for almost 15 months albeit in 90 day intervals at a time).

If you don't want to leave every 90 days you need to show your marriage certificate etc. and 400K (preferably coming from abroad) in your bank account at Immigration (or you can show 40K coming in a month (from abroad generally) or a combination of the two) . They can then extend your Visa (generally for 9 months initially as you'd already have a 3 month stamps) after 9 months if you can show the 400K again (some say it shouldn't remain static, others say it's not a problem...depends on the Imm official you're dealing with and how he or she interprets (sp?) the rules) you'll get a 12 month extension and so on and so on and so on. So there is some advantage in marrying a Thai.

Once you've been on an EXTENDED Visa for 3 years you can apply for residency (I think a tad under 200,000 for the application if you're not married, or a tad under 100,000 Baht if you are).

Once you've been on a residency Visa for 5-10 years (depends on who you listen to) you can apply for citizenship....but they want to be seeing mega bucks in tax payments (if you've been working here) as well as good command of Thai, be of benefit to the country...etc. etc. etc. Basically it's really, really difficult and not many people get it. I know a lady with it (but then women get it almost automatically as this is a male based society!).

Residency is doable and I may go for it myself in the near future (although I've heard the current government are very tight about giving it out), but cizizenship is nigh on impossible for most people!

ThaiVisa will give you more of the ins and outs of it, but this is the general jist of it!

Residency does make it easier to live here as you don't have to worry about doing runs, and I think you get 5 years of cover at a time (or with minimal fuss when you renew each year!), I'm not sure though.
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