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Ciara



Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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Location: Yangquan, Shanxi Province

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:09 am    Post subject: Free Job Postings Reply with quote

Anyone know of a site where I can post a job for free?

Just helping out the school that I'm at now....heading back home in July Very Happy
Gonna drink me a case o Moosehead...ahhh!
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nolefan



Joined: 14 Jan 2004
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Location: on the run

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on the location of the school! you can always try www.thatsbj.com .
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Babala



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can post for free on eslteachersboard.com

Watch out though, you will alot of responses from non-native speakers. I am looking for 2 teachers at my school right now. I thought I wouldn't have too much trouble because the salary offered is about the best around but I am having a real hard time finding qualified teachers.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Babala wrote:
You can post for free on eslteachersboard.com

Watch out though, you will alot of responses from non-native speakers. I am looking for 2 teachers at my school right now. I thought I wouldn't have too much trouble because the salary offered is about the best around but I am having a real hard time finding qualified teachers.


If you are a recruiter you have yet to learn your ropes, lady!
Since when does "native speaker" equate being qualified?
I got a CV today from a person born in a non-English speaking country; to tell you the truth his CV reads far more impressive than most I have seen sent to me by so-called "native speakers".
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millie



Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Location: HK

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger wrote:
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Since when does "native speaker" equate being qualified?
....his CV reads far more impressive than most I have seen sent to me by so-called "native speakers".


equate to being qualified

...and...

far more impressively than most.

Not very impressive PR from a non-native speaker, is it?

Anyway, you can try:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TEFLChinaJob/

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bendan



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger wrote:



Since when does "native speaker" equate being qualified?


When the government says so?
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Babala



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger,
Allow me to clarify a few points

1) I am not a recruiter, I am just a teacher helping out my school.

2) I didn't say that being a native speaker automatically made someone a good teacher, nor it is that the only qualification my school is looking for (BA and TESOL/TEFL needed) but be honest with yourself, you have been in China a long time, do the Chinese want a teacher from a non-english speaking country, no matter how many degrees they have? Would the Chinese gov't even issue them a z visa (this I really don't know). Not only do the students want to be taught English, they usually want to learn about Western culture., a teacher from an Asian country would be no use in this capacity. The fact is, my school only wants native english speakers.
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Roger



Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Babala wrote:
Roger,
Allow me to clarify a few points

1) I am not a recruiter, I am just a teacher helping out my school.

2) . Not only do the students want to be taught English, they usually want to learn about Western culture., a teacher from an Asian country would be no use in this capacity. The fact is, my school only wants native english speakers.


Thanks for the clarification, Babala. However, I feel you are deluding yourself in believing that Chinese students "want to learn about Western culture..." etc. They don't want anything, they go to just another class that is compulsory and that happens to be run by a foreign face. There are some that pay extra to get FTs for specific purposes - IELTS, prep for overseas study, etc. But the majority of us work in classes where "Western culture" is not particularly high on the agenda. We are mostly figureheads. That, and other reasons, including the fact that hardly any Chinese can tell an Australian accent from a Singaporean one (for example) leads me to say: this requirement is academic at best. amd iuseless.
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peggiescott



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger,

For someone who has worked in China for so long you sure seem to have a knack for choosing schools at the bottom of the pile. Anyway, that's what I gather from the way you talk about your students. I'm at a pretty low level college and have lots of students who are interested in Western culture and from the number of middle school students who approach me at McDonald's I'd say several of them are serious about speaking English.

To call someone delusional because their experience is different than yours is perhaps a bit extreme.

Peggie
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Babala



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger,
I find it strange that you think students are not interested in Western culture. I have taught many different age groups before, I found that most of their questions are about my country and different customs we have. I now work at a training centre. Most of my students are businessmen and students going abroad so they are just as interested in learning about Western culture as they are about english. As for me being delusional, I think not.
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Ciara



Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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Location: Yangquan, Shanxi Province

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just helping out the school because they're going to provide a reference letter for my MBA Razz

The ones who are interested in learning English want to learn about Western culture. The ones who aren't are only interested in the NBA.

Thanks for the links!
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yaco



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:00 pm    Post subject: free job posting Reply with quote

' Pardon My Ignorance '.

How does wanting to learn about western culture equate with learning English.

There is about 25 or 30 countries throughout the world, who have English as their first language and they are not all Western countries.
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Jolly



Joined: 12 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger wrote:
Babala wrote:
You can post for free on eslteachersboard.com

Watch out though, you will alot of responses from non-native speakers. I am looking for 2 teachers at my school right now. I thought I wouldn't have too much trouble because the salary offered is about the best around but I am having a real hard time finding qualified teachers.


If you are a recruiter you have yet to learn your ropes, lady!
Since when does "native speaker" equate being qualified?
I got a CV today from a person born in a non-English speaking country; to tell you the truth his CV reads far more impressive than most I have seen sent to me by so-called "native speakers".


But is the person of whom you speak telling the truth about his qualifications?
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Ciara



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: free job posting Reply with quote

yaco wrote:
' Pardon My Ignorance '.

How does wanting to learn about western culture equate with learning English.

There is about 25 or 30 countries throughout the world, who have English as their first language and they are not all Western countries.


It doesn't. But what I think was meant by that is that most Chinese ppl assume that "Western" = Proper English pronunication (aside from UK and Australia) just as they assume WHITE PPL = NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS.
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Zero Hero



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bendan wrote:
Roger wrote:

Since when does "native speaker" equate being qualified?

When the government says so?

I think you mean 'If the government said so', for this is certainly not what the government has said. Indeed, the government states quite clearly that, in order to be qualified for foreign expert status, native speaker status alone is not sufficient.
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