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rafomania



Joined: 25 Mar 2005
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Location: Guadalajara

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject: Mexican students Reply with quote

For those of you who are teaching or have taught in Mexico, I have a question. How would you describe your students? Any characteristics that are good/bad in your opinion about Mexican students?
I'm interested to know how you have found teaching students there...
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Samantha



Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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Location: Mexican Riviera

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The biggest thing I have noticed is the priority system in this culture is quite different than most of us are used to and takes adjustment. The top priority is generally family, followed by friends, followed by work and last but not least, school or classes. If you are part of a Mexican family this is a good thing, but if you are a teacher it can give you a little complex. Smile

So questionable attendance and homework assignments are the thing I notice foreign teachers trying to deal with here, followed by the dreaded cell phone ringing in the classroom and students bolting for the door "just for a minute, teacher". (My rule was that only single moms could keep their cell phones on during class) You can't change things like this so you have no choice but to adjust or you will lose your mind (and get fired). I think British teachers have the roughest go in this area, from what I have seen. Classroom discipline and rules as you know them, don't cut it here.

On the plus side, you will get to hear the most creative excuses imaginable, plus learn the Mexican sign language. Locals in my area can have a whole conversation across a crowded room, and everyone involved will understand what is taking place. During exam time, a teacher will want to keep an eye on that (literally)! Idea

This is only my experience but I live in a very casual laid-back area where getting uptight about little things does absolutely no good. I am sure that it may be another story in DF or Guadalajara (and other cities) where the pace of life is much different.
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samantha wrote:
The top priority is generally family, followed by friends, followed by work and last but not least, school or classes.


For those of us who teach in a university environment, I would add one more step: family, friends, work, other classes, and finally, English class.

I do enjoy teaching here though; my students are always great to work with.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely true. English class is definitely the last priority it seems.
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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach in a state university EFL program which is open to anyone who has completed secundaria. Although the majority of our students are in the 18-22 age range, we have quite a few prepa students who want more from their English classes than they can get in prepa as well as a number of students who are older than traditional university students.

Samantha wrote:
Absolutely true. English class is definitely the last priority it seems.

I find that to be true for many of our university students as well. I think it's a carry-over from their English classes in prepa, where (at least here) English is a required course but not considered as high of a priority as their academic core courses.

At the risk of generalizing, I find most Mexican students to be extremely polite, respectful, friendly, bright, sociable (maybe overly so in class at times,) and enamored with their cell/mobile phones. They have a good sense of humor, and are quite uninhibited about participating when it comes to trying new and different activities in class. For many students, punctuality is not their strong point, although most students seem quite motivated to learn English and want to do well in their English classes.

Note: I'm sure my opinions about Mexican students are influenced a lot by my previous teaching experiences prior to coming to Mexico -- 20 years of teaching in public high schools in the USA.
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moonraven



Joined: 24 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have found Mexican students to be extremely creative (this is a very right brain culture, in general) and very motivated to learn. In fact I taught a learning course in Spanish last year for incoming university students and was pleasantly surprised that they surpassed my expectations of progress and enthusiasm.

Obviously, some students have more facility for languages than others, but generally Mexicans are good language learners (as evidenced by generally very high scores of my students on TOEFL and Michigan exams).

The only other latin American country where I have taught is Ecuador--and I found Ecuadorian students to be very similar in academic habits to Mexican students.
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