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Correcting others' grammar...RUDE!
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junkmail



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I do.
And use of a/an:
Girl Scout wrote:
What I really don't like are poster who think this forum is no different from a chatroom. Text writing does not fit on a English teacher discussion board.

Girl Scout, is there possibly a touch of irony in your post?

Anyway, as long as the mistakes don't make the post too confusing to read I really don't mind. A bit of a case of he who is without sin I feel.

As another poster said earlier, most people do this between teaching and having a life so careful editing isn't usually a big factor. Let's face it, it's not like this is paid work. I don't know about the rest of you but this is one of my escapes from my day job.
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Wonder



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that writing a well structured message is the way to go. It makes message boards a little more sophisticated and proud. I belong to a few message boards and one in particular is really bad. So it is nice to come here and see the care most people put into their messages.

Once, a long time ago when I was volunteering at a college newspaper, some people suggested writing phonetically and not using upper-case and other formal puncutation. The reason was that it was more freestyle to write however you wanted, as long as it was understandable. The idea quickly foundered because it is really annoying trying to read something that takes extra effort, just because some people think traditional structure is too strict or doesn't express their personality.

Other than poetry, I think we should all try as individuals to aspire to a well-heeled form of writing. It's very impressive to board visitors and extremely easy to read quickly. But certainly, if someone makes an error, that's their problem and I agree it's obnoxious to point it out. The person who is doing the correcting looks anal. Send a pm if you're that concerned.

On the other hand. I believe the original poster was talking more about oral corrections among native speakers, which is very rude indeed. Shocked
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Aristotle



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the internet and I am not being paid to write here. On Taiwan, if you want it done right do it yourself or pay a professional and hope for the best.
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Girl Scout



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fixed my errors. Are you done picking on me?
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TaoyuanSteve



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Girl Scout wrote:
I fixed my errors. Are you done picking on me?


Not picking on you. You were forwarding a certain point of view with regards to correcting people. I believe it's rude and shouldn't be done in all but the worst of cases. I pointed out your errors to prove a point. The offence you take to these corrections proves what I was saying in the first place. It's unlikely I will correct you or point out minor errors in your posts again in future.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It makes you wonder about someone who posts something gawdawful even after they have had a chance to review it. What in the world do they do in class when students are throwing grammar questions at them or they are trying to explain some arcane point?


I think that some people just try to get their point across when they post. They may be busy and do not take time to make sure that their grammar is correct. I am sure that many of us post something quickly while we are working or when we should really be doing something else. A message board is not a term paper nor is it the same as teaching in class.
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Pop Fly



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Correcting others' grammar...RUDE! Reply with quote

mr.bojangles wrote:
but where they lost points was being tact.


That's "tactful". Cool Razz Very Happy Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I felt that! Yes improper grammar on my part and the lack of a spelling and grammar check. Can't waste too much time especially with projects to be marked, documents to be written for the M.O.E. and the B.O.T. as well as countless meetings.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take no offense to anything written on these forums. If I did I certainly wouldn't bother making a reply. You pointed two typos while junkmail pointed out an actual grammar error.

I just feel that we should take the time to pay attention to what we write. I teach my students to proofread their work. Shouldn't we also proofread our work? I said I found it rude originally. I also understand why some people do it.

TS, if you find it so rude why did you post a correction. I honestly missed the point you were trying to make. This goes back to my belief that carefully chosen words make people easier to understand.
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TaoyuanSteve



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Girl Scout wrote:
I take no offense to anything written on these forums. If I did I certainly wouldn't bother making a reply. You pointed two typos while junkmail pointed out an actual grammar error.

I just feel that we should take the time to pay attention to what we write. I teach my students to proofread their work. Shouldn't we also proofread our work? I said I found it rude originally. I also understand why some people do it.

TS, if you find it so rude why did you post a correction. I honestly missed the point you were trying to make. This goes back to my belief that carefully chosen words make people easier to understand.


I think you know the point I was trying to make. Your tone suggests it. You're peeved. I don't usually point such things out; but, since you were advocating doing so within this thread, I did so. I found it just a little ironic that someone was advocating spelling and grammar precision while making numerous mistakes in the very same post. Pointing out your errors was a way of, in a round about way, trying to give you a sense of the "judge not lest ye be judged" ethos.

I disagree that we should extensively proofread internet discussion board posts. This isn't a formal genre of writing. I'm not being paid and I'm not being graded. I rattle off posts while sitting at home--as one person put it-- in between work and going out and having a life. It isn't worth it to me to be so precise in these types of corespondences.

You use your students as an example. It's a bad one. Students are not your peer group. They are there to be educated by you. We, on the other hand, are your peer group. We are educated adults just like yourself. Some of us don't like it when strangers point out random errors as if we are in need of an English lesson.

And I did point out a grammar mistake, BTW. Look again.

Take care.
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m o n k



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said, TS!
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m o n k



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean, well posted, TS! Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
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