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mpan
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 Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: Taipei Oxford International School??? |
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| Anyone out there had any experience with these guys or heard anything about them?? |
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Aristotle
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| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:13 am Post subject: |
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I have no reports of any kind on a school of that name.
This could be a result of any one of a number of reasons, none of them good.
If you include the land line telephone number it is possible to identify the schools Chinese name. Also please include the actual address of the school as well as the names both Chinese and English of the supervisors for a complete and accurate background check.
Good luck and please read this.
http://www.geocities.com/taiwanteacher2002/Success.html
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Aristotle wrote: |
| This could be a result of any one of a number of reasons, none of them good. |
Don't be so hard on yourself Aristotle. Just because you haven't heard any comments doesn't mean that this is a bad thing. There is just a smidgeon of a possibility that the lack of comments may just be due to the fact that there is nothing bad to be said!
I am familiar with the deal that they are offering and it seems pretty reasonable to me. Personally I don't like salaried positions as the benefits are generally not much more than hourly paid positions, but the rates are generally less. Unfortunately, full time positions such as the ones Taipei Oxford are offering are nearly all salaried.
Just for clarfication, I believe that the term 'International School' is somewhat misleading here as the school is not a true international school. It is just something they have included in their name. |
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markholmes
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Are you sure you don't mean Taipei Oxford American School in Donghu, NE Taipei?
That was the last school I worked for. I did six months of a year contract and had to leave. The salary is high, but you will have to work for it, they don't pay you that wage for nothing.
It looks like a great deal, but it is not as good as it looks. There is a hierarchal system in the school that is completely stifling. Only Oxford experience is considered real teaching experience and unless you have been at the school for five years plus you will not be able to break into the clique club of long termers.
Although they employ Afrikaans speakers, some with questionable English standards, they will not employ blacks and Asians from English speaking countries (whites only policy).
There is also a Christian overtone to the school that I was not aware of when I started and, as a non-Christian, I was not very comfortable with.
Actually, I think the actual teaching standards are quite high, there are some excellent teachers who are very dedicated, but I found the kindergarten environment to be depressing for the kids (grey and a 'no artwork on the walls' policy! Its a kindergarten for god sake!
Having said this there are teachers there that have been there for 10 years plus, so maybe it was me with the problem.
But remember this, I don't believe they have ever gone a whole year without at least one teacher running away. Moving to that school was the worst move I made in Taiwan and prompted me eventually to leave Taiwan for good.
My suggestion is to look elsewhere.
Email me if you have questions.
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| markholmes wrote: |
| Are you sure you don't mean Taipei Oxford American School in Donghu, NE Taipei? |
No it is definitely Taipei Oxford International School who are advertising now.
Thanks for the heads up on Taipei Oxford American School though! |
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Greenislander
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Yes, Taipei Oxford International School is advertising. I have applied for a teaching job there, but I don't like my chances  . It is listed as a Govt run school (on a different job website).
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markholmes
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Where is the school located? |
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markholmes
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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I beg to differ. I've just checked the advertisement and this is the school I am refering too. They have replaced the word Amercian with International. I don't know why its called 'international'. Two years ago the only foreign kids were those of the teachers (who got free classes).
It is not government run. Possibly they are being funded for some programs, but the school is owned by a local business man. |
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Aristotle
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The new edict not only informs schools about the restriction on foreign teachers, but also contains a specific reminder to Early Childhood Educational (ECE) schools that they must comply with all relevant regulations or face prosecution, a statement that was interpreted by some as meaning schools using non-native designations even just in the names of their schools, such as �bi-lingual�, �American�, etc. could be censured.
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http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=20836 |
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Aristotle wrote: |
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The new edict not only informs schools about the restriction on foreign teachers, but also contains a specific reminder to Early Childhood Educational (ECE) schools that they must comply with all relevant regulations or face prosecution, a statement that was interpreted by some as meaning schools using non-native designations even just in the names of their schools, such as �bi-lingual�, �American�, etc. could be censured.
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Well as usual Aristotle has completely misconstrued and misquoted.
The above quote refers directly to the ban on English immersion preschools in Taiwan and has no relevance to the school to which this thread pertains. Many of the immersion programs adopted English names such as 'So-and-so Bilingual School' and 'So-and-so American School'. Preschools are allowed to offer English classes but they are not allowed to teach all subject matter in English. Therefore the government felt the above names were either misleading or indicative of illegal preschools.
As you can see this has no relevance to Taipei Oxford International School which is an elementary and up school from my understanding. |
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mpan
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| damn straight clark ...... tell it like it is brutha !!!!!!!! (can I get an amen?) lol sorry, I could not resist |
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markholmes
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| As you can see this has no relevance to Taipei Oxford International School which is an elementary and up school from my understanding. |
No. it is a preschool during the day and has classes for elementary kids in the afternoons and evenings. It is not elementary school in the government sense, it is an English school for kindergarten and elementary kids, although looking at the building it looks very much like a real school. |
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Fortigurn
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="mpan"]damn straight clark ...... tell it like it is brutha !!!!!!!! (can I get an amen?) lol sorry, I could not resist[/quote
Amen from this end.  |
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clark.w.griswald
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| markholmes wrote: |
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| As you can see this has no relevance to Taipei Oxford International School which is an elementary and up school from my understanding. |
No. it is a preschool during the day and has classes for elementary kids in the afternoons and evenings. It is not elementary school in the government sense, it is an English school for kindergarten and elementary kids, although looking at the building it looks very much like a real school. |
Mark I didn't say that it was an elementary school.
I said that it was 'an elementary and up school' meaning elementary aged students and up. If they also have preschool classes then that is interesting to hear, but still does not justify Aristotles quote above which as I have stated is really irrelevant to this topic. Do you disagree with my point or is it just the intricacies of what I say that you continue to disagree with?
This raises an interesting question. I would be interested in what exactly constitutes accreditation here to justify the name 'International school'. As I have said in an earlier post I don't believe that this particular school qualifies for such accreditation, but maybe Mark could give us some more information about this since he actually worked at the school. Over to you Mark. |
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markholmes
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| Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not disagreeing with you Clark, I just corrected your statement that read
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, because your understanding was not quite right (although you seem to have some knowledge of the school). Also I believe the school does not go far beyond the elementary level. My memory of this is becoming hazier by the day, but I believe it is preschool and elementary only.
I wasn't trying to justify Aristotles quote, in fact I can't even remember what he wrote (frankly did it deserve comment?). As the sole person to have worked at the school (posting on this board) I have merely corrected comments where they were not quite correct or not complete.
I was just trying to provide correct information to the original poster. |
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