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kevinyam



Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:46 am    Post subject: Bilingual tv's? Reply with quote

I was just wondering if all new televisions in Japan came with this feature, or if only certain models do.
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bearcat



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: Bilingual tv's? Reply with quote

kevinyam wrote:
I was just wondering if all new televisions in Japan came with this feature, or if only certain models do.


Most models do but some do not.
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joncharles



Joined: 09 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of your cheap televisions, such as small single speaker ones, probably will not.. but almost all the sets above 15,000 Yen are bilingual. When I went shopping for mine, I found a clerk who spoke English... in one case one of the staff from our school went with one of the new teachers to shop for one. Plus check for some sayonara sales.. you might find a good one.
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: An answer Reply with quote

Careful how you ask the store clerks though... If you ask whether or not a TV is bilingual or not is a bad question... Many people will misinterpret this as asking whether or not the TV has on-screen English menus, etc... That is (likely) not your main concern.

Your main concern is being able to listen to programs in English (when available).

At the store, ask whether the TV is capable of: 1) stereo. If the answer is "YES" then ask question 2) How about SAP? If the answer is "YES" then you've got the TV you want.

Simply put, SAP stands for: supplementary audio program. Broadcasts that are bilingual are sent out stereo... The English broadcast is "hidden" in the transmission signal and are filtered out unless otherwise requested. In the United States, this is common on many local news channels for carrying programs in Spanish. (In Canada - French)...

The geek explanation is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_audio_program

No SAP = no bilingual TV. It's that easy....
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kevinyam



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the advice guys. Shopping around for televisions and satellite dishes when you don't speak the language can be a daunting task.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first TV in Japan was an old dinosaur, had missing buttons, a broken console and it still was bilingual. Real gomi material. Don't let appearance fool you. You could also try a recycle shop and save your yen.
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kevinyam



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

really? because the guy at the local electronics store claimed that none of the tvs under 20 inches had SAP or bilingual functions.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kevinyam wrote:
really? because the guy at the local electronics store claimed that none of the tvs under 20 inches had SAP or bilingual functions.


This was a clunky 14 inches. Why do you think the guy at the store told you that? Give you one guess. Very Happy
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