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Zero Hero
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 944
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| Gordon wrote: |
| How would they know your degree is distant given you get a degree from a uni that teaches on campus and distant mode? |
They contact the establishment and ask. That's how. |
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mlomker

Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 378
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Zero Hero wrote: |
| They contact the establishment and ask. That's how. |
I've attended both online and conventional classes and I can honestly say that there is no quality difference. It has a lot more to do with the student than the method of instruction.
I fundamentally disagree with countries that don't accept distance degrees. It's their prerogative, though. Regional accreditation is adequate in the United States and there are similar entities in every country.
I attend a 3rd rate conventional graduate school right now. The classes consist primarily of foreigners that speak English as a second language. How does the quality of these graduates compare to Harvard or even the graduates of the University of Minnesota? Pretty poor. I find it laughable that some of these people's educations would be valued over that of an adept student that pursued distance education due to their personal circumstances (which usually means the necessity of working at a full-time job or being physically located in a rural location). |
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SillyLily
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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I was reading this thread and its very interesting.
I agree with what you said, I don't think its right either that some countries won't accept accredited distance degrees.
However, I am thinking of doing a distance-learning degree with the Open University in the UK. As far as I am aware its accredited and very well known. Would it be acceptable in Korea and Japan? |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| SillyLily wrote: |
I was reading this thread and its very interesting.
I agree with what you said, I don't think its right either that some countries won't accept accredited distance degrees.
However, I am thinking of doing a distance-learning degree with the Open University in the UK. As far as I am aware its accredited and very well known. Would it be acceptable in Korea and Japan? |
If its accepted as a recognised, accreditted institution in the UK you should not have any problems with getting a visa, which is all employers here are interested in, not what you actually studied. There are many ways of getting a degree, there is the legal way and the "diploma mill" way.
The above appears to be in the former category
http://www.open.ac.uk/about/ou/p6.shtml |
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Zero Hero
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 944
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Now that is an interesting question and is an important topic. Thanks for raising it.
The Open University is a bit of an exception, or perhaps not so much an exception, as more a different kettle of fish completely. The Open University prides itself on being open to all, regardless of prior education, experience, age, etc., not on being a 'distance' institution as such.
You see, the Open University is an English university. It just happens that, logistically, completing a degree there is different to all other English universities. Remember also that the Open University is not based around distance degrees as such. Most - if not all - of its courses have heavy lecture room elements, usually in the form of intensive summer schools, etc. It is often the case that students at these residential summer schools have input from the same lecturers as students at more traditional universities. Also, students of the Open University have fairly regular face to face meetings with instructors and lecturers.
As I understand it, the OU has a strong reputation and is held in fairly high regard. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Zero Hero wrote: |
The Open University is a bit of an exception, or perhaps not so much an exception, as more a different kettle of fish completely. The Open University prides itself on being open to all, regardless of prior education, experience, age, etc., not on being a 'distance' institution as such.
You see, the Open University is an English university. It just happens that, logistically, completing a degree there is different to all other English universities. Remember also that the Open University is not based around distance degrees as such. Most - if not all - of its courses have heavy lecture room elements, usually in the form of intensive summer schools, etc. It is often the case that students at these residential summer schools have input from the same lecturers as students at more traditional universities. Also, students of the Open University have fairly regular face to face meetings with instructors and lecturers.
As I understand it, the OU has a strong reputation and is held in fairly high regard. |
So how is this different than other distance masters programs? Almost every university I looked into is exactly as you described OU except for the residential summer schools. My profs are the same and the course is identical as the one which is offered on campus. The only difference is the lack of face-to-face contact. Instead I email them. To be honest, I have more dialogue with my profs now than I did in my undergraduate degree on campus. |
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mlomker

Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 378
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| the lack of face-to-face contact. Instead I email them. To be honest, I have more dialogue with my profs now than I did in my undergraduate degree on campus. |
I wrote a lot more papers for my online classes at the University of Phoenix undergraduate program than I do for my current, conventional graduate degree. I left the UoP because I couldn't afford it, not because I thought the quality was any lower than another program. If I were an employer, I would hire a graduate from the UoP (that had a high GPA, etc) without hesitation.
My contention is that there are relative quality differences between online schools, and there are quality differences between conventional schools. I find it bizarre that a country would disagree with online schools in their entirety.
Wharton offers and online Executive MBA that costs something like $35k US for two years. Should the graduates from that program be allowed to teach in Taiwan? These same people are CEOs of many American companies. That's my point. |
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