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If you want to do an MA but have little money

 
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nuuri55



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: If you want to do an MA but have little money Reply with quote

I have just completed an MA at Utah State University. They are ranked 35th in the United States in Education in the latest US NEWS & World Report ranking. They have a Masters in Second Language Teaching (MSLT) program here. You can choose to emphasize in linguistics, applied linguistics, second language acquisition and teaching. I have classmates going into ESL, EFL, language teaching including French, German, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese, Russian, etc. They gave me a job teaching here at the University and at a nearby middle school to pay for my education. It's a small town located in Logan, UT. It's five minutes from the canyon where you can Ski, Camp, Hike, Fish. It's an hour from Salt Lake City which is the closest city, but I came here for the education. It's a farming town so its nice and quiet. The cost of living is insanely cheap. Here is the URL for the program.

http://www.usu.edu/langphil/mslt/index.htm

If you are planning to do an MA in tesol, linguistics, or SLA from an accredited school with a great reputation I highly recommend looking into this program
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what this has with the Middle East, unless Utah moved while I was asleep.
Basically, you're telling us this is a good university and you work there now. Perhaps it is a good school, but this is called spamming.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just took a glance at Nuuri's profile and at least he didn't post this to every branch on Dave's. It also states that he is interested in the Middle East. So, I guess we could be kind and assume that he was just trying to help out people currently in the Middle East that might want to find a reasonably priced MA program back in the US.

Who knows... there might be some people who would like to look into it...

VS
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nuuri55



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you read the Middle East posts you will find out that you need an MA for most of the top jobs. That is why I posted the info.
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dialogger



Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe there should be a thread for good education 'deals'?
It is an international market after all, just like ESL.
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Sekhmet



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question....
Are there any good distance learning programs floating around?? I need to get my MA, but I'm stuck in Alex and really can't take any time out to go to Cairo and do the AUC program. Does this Utah program have a distance option? Or any other good ones??

I know this is not specifically a Middle East question, but at least it fits the thread!!
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some good Australian masters programs that teach by distance are USQ, UNE and Macquarie.

All fully accredited and legitimate.
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lionbrian



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: ADD TO THE LIST! Reply with quote

University of Tasmania: With the famous senior lecturer: Dr. Thao Le
UNE (University of New Enland)
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megs



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about an online PhD? I have looked and looked for an online course, online during the year and summers spent at the university campus. The only program I have found so far is with the University of Phoenix. It's in Educational Leadership, but I'm more interested in Linguistics, TEFL, Language Acquisition, etc. Any info. for me?
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dialogger



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if this is helpful but New Zealand has just brought in (starts July I think) new fees for foreign PhD candidates. They now pay the same fee as a locals. Say NZ$3000 pa tuition compared to NZ$20,000 under old regime.
Massey University in NZ is strong on distance learning but not sure if that includes doctoral programmes.
And of course visiting campus in the northern summer would put you right smack into the southern winter but in the middle of term so everyone 'on deck' as it were.
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lionbrian



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:36 am    Post subject: More info! Reply with quote

Dear Dialogger,

Thanks for your input as it is a very good news Very Happy for many teachers who have the capacity to study & the motivation and cannot afford a PHD Embarassed !

Where did you read this info? What source? I checked Massey University and they still charge about 17,000/year up to 3 or 4 (minimum 51,000/years Evil or Very Mad

Could you name these universities please?

THANKS A MILLION!
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dialogger



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has just been annouced in the last couple of days so Massey website won't be up-to-date on this.
I'll track the info I have seen and paste it in a new message.
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dialogger



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK
As mentioned in prev post this is the news item from NZ Herald.
You have to wade through a bit of other stuff to get the PhD news.
The Auckland University is quoted as NZ$20,000 current for a year's tuition for foreign PhD students and reducing to NZ$3000 under the new regime.
Hope this assists.


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Foreign brains wooed with lower university fees

20.04.05 1.00pm
By Audrey Young


Study fees for foreign PhD students will be slashed and their children will
be able to attend school for free in new measures aimed at the rich education
market.

Restrictions on other foreign students working part-time will also be relaxed
in moves expected to increase the part-time work pool by up to 30,000.

The measures are designed to counter the fall in foreign student numbers in
the past year, which has been blamed on increased competition from other
countries and a more selective immigration policy.

After four years of growth, student approval numbers slipped by about 22,000,
to 57,731 , in the past 12 months.

The aim of the new measures is not only to attract top-level students but
also to make it attractive for them to stay in New Zealand after they have
completed their studies.

But much to the annoyance of the Government, the announcement coincided with
the release of an international survey on affordability of higher education
which rated New Zealand 15th out of of 16 countries surveyed.

Education Minister Trevor Mallard announced the new measures yesterday while
leading an education delegation to India. They are part of the Budget.

Just 251 students from India studied in New Zealand in 2000, but this year
there are 2567.

Mr Mallard said he wanted the benefits to be two-way, as some of the world's
leading research institutions were in India.

"I want our students to and staff to be more aware of this and to consider
India as a place come for study and research."

An extra $21 million will be budgeted over the next four years, and will take
the Government's budget in international education to $70 million for the
five years from June 2004.

PhD students will have their fees cut to the same level as domestic students.
To qualify for the reduced fees they will have to be supervised by leading
researchers at New Zealand universities from the beginning of 2006.

The average university fee for foreign students last year was $14,363 but
charges for PhD courses were higher.

Auckland University PhD fees for foreign students are almost $20,000 a year.
The domestic rate is $3000 a year.

Abolishing school fees for students' school-aged children would also have a
significant effect, as the average school fee for foreign pupils last year
was $9721.

In defending the costs of New Zealand education, acting Education Minister
David Benson-Pope declared the affordability survey by the Washington-based
Educational Policy Institute "seriously flawed" and said it used out-of-date
data.

It overstated the level of fees and the data was based on figures from 2000
and 2001, he said. "It ignores the effect of major changes in student support
policy and assistance introduced since then."

Between 2000 and 2004, students had been spared $250.9 million in interest
charges that were written off as a result of policy introduced in 2000.

Contrary to the report's claims, New Zealand university fees were now more
than a third lower than the fees charged to students at universities in
Australia.
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