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Zero Hero



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great contribution, 'AsiaTraveller', if a little 'ChinaMovieMagic'-like. Thanks for the link.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is much on the Internet about the viva voce, including suggestions for preparation. I quoted an amusing excerpt for your enjoyment. Glad you liked it.
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calicomist



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:02 am    Post subject: Online PhD in English or American Literature available? Reply with quote

What about an online PhD in literature? Does anyone know of any available? I'm not a lingustics or language person. I have an MA in English, with a graduate certificate in Medieval Renaissance Studies, so I'm interested in the latter area. Please let me know of any.

Thanks~ Wink
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dan



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merlin might have some accurate info re: PhD's in applied linguistics outside the US, but here in the states any decent program (and even most medicore ones) have residency requirements that, in the VERY LEAST, make up 50% of your degree. That is, expect to spend 2-4 years on the actual campus that will confer your degree. Once you complete your course work, preliminary exams, dissertation prospectus, secure funding for research abroad (no small feat) AND find an approved university or research institute overseas that is willing to work with you, then you might be able to swing it.

IN the end, be prepared to make a very long commitment with little or no money/recognition and no guarantee of conducting research abroad all for the opportunity to compete for employment in one of the most competitive, under-funded, back-biting and petty fields around.
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calicomist



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But what about a Ph D in Literature? That will enable me to teach more classes on line regarding Humanities and Arts, etc.

Or are all PhD created equal?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Distance TEFL Reply with quote

Kent F. Kruhoeffer wrote:


Here is a list of Distance TEFL courses I've been working on and adding to over the past year. The MA & PhD programs are mixed in with the more generic TEFL certificate courses, so you'll need to take your time and scroll through the list.


DISTANCE TEFL / TESOL & POST-GRAD STUDIES


http://www.actdec.org.uk/ (Accreditation Council for TESOL Distance Courses)


* reposted from The Master Index Thailand (FAQ 11) located at the top of the Thailand Forum Wink


How well known are the ACTDEC certs and dips? Are they a legit organisation? Has anyone taken any of their courses?
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi naturegirl321


ACTDEC is based in the UK and was established

in 1993 by the late Bill Lee, the same guy who

founded IATEFL :: http://www.iatefl.org/


They are non-profit and independent;

2 positive aspects in their favour.


In plain English, they aren't "selling"

accreditation in order to get rich quick.


I wouldn't put them in the same category as a

government DOE or Cambridge University,

but they're probably just about

the next best thing, imho.



PS: I've updated the links on page 1.
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Imdramayu



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:09 pm    Post subject: PhD in TESOL in Korea Reply with quote

Has anyone done a Phd in a university in Korea? I know few do like KyungHee Univ.

Im
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: PhD in TESOL in Korea Reply with quote

Imdramayu wrote:
Has anyone done a Phd in a university in Korea? I know few do like KyungHee Univ.

Im


That sounds like a question for the Korea forum, which requires a separate registration. The folks over there should be able to help you out.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: Online PhD Reply with quote

megs wrote:
Does anyone know of any online PhD programs in linguistics or TEFL? I have looked and looked for an online course, online during the year and summers spent at the university campus. The only program I have found so far is with the University of Phoenix, but it's in Educational Leadership. Any info. for me?


Indiana University of Pennsylvania (It's a degree in both TESOL and composition. I've seen a presentation by someone who did his degree there and he was great!) I think the summer option is really summer ONLY. And the rest of the year you are teaching classes and probably doing your own reading etc to get ready for the summer term.

Anaheim University (I know someone who did the MA level from this school and entirely recommends it.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Online PhD Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Indiana University of Pennsylvania (It's a degree in both TESOL and composition. I've seen a presentation by someone who did his degree there and he was great!) I think the summer option is really summer ONLY. And the rest of the year you are teaching classes and probably doing your own reading etc to get ready for the summer term.


IUP does indeed have a summers only option and, if that works for you, it would be great way to go.

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Anaheim University (I know someone who did the MA level from this school and entirely recommends it.)


Anaheim is a for-profit university and does NOT have the all-important regional accreditation. While totally online and, evidently, not plagued by scandals and federal investigations like many other for-profit schools, it would not likely be considered as a valid credential by most U.S.-based schools. I'd be inclined to invest my graduate tuition dollars elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a thread in the teacher training area about Anaheim:

http://www.eslcafe.com/discussion/dz1/index.cgi?read=1408947553

It concerns the master's. Like I mentioned, I know someone who did the master's at Anaheim (it's not me). He is a really well-trained teacher. The thing is that he isn't American. He has no intention of working in the US and nobody has ever questioned his credentials. And the American idea of regional accreditation etc, actually isn't well understood outside of the US (because it isn't an issue in some other Inner Circle English speaking countries).

I guess it depends on how recruitment is done at a particular institution (and IME in recruitment in Japan, nobody has ever mentioned "accreditation" they have mentioned "diploma mill" "fake university" etc, and by that measure, Anaheim is fine. But that's only ***my*** experience. YMMV) If in the interview, they just don't know a whole lot about the subject at all, then obviously they will be out of the running. And that is another big issue, given the differences between how TESOL is generally taught in North America compared with how it's generally taught in the UK, Ireland; and Australia and New Zealand- with people from each area knowing relatively little about how the others are taught.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Like I mentioned, I know someone who did the master's at Anaheim (it's not me). He is a really well-trained teacher. The thing is that he isn't American. He has no intention of working in the US and nobody has ever questioned his credentials. And the American idea of regional accreditation etc, actually isn't well understood outside of the US (because it isn't an issue in some other Inner Circle English speaking countries).


This is a valid point and, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, Anaheim may well be an excellent option for folks pursuing TESOL careers in certain countries or regions of the world outside of North America. (Obviously, there are some countries--mostly in the Middle East--that do not accept any sort of online degrees regardless of the type of accreditation.) I would, however, definitely counsel against it if the OP has even the remotest hope of ever teaching in a regionally accredited school in the U.S. or Canada.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it should be understood how some universities are valued. These days a University of Phoenix degree, even though it's accredited, gets your resume chucked in the trash in many US companies. Some people are being advised to take their U of Phoenix degrees off their resumes, ie they are better off without a degree than having a U of Phoenix degree.

I suspect that many others fall in the same category. While it may not be an issue outside the US, it's something to keep in mind.

Often it is cheaper and better to go with a state university masters(forget online phd) than it is to go with a for profit disaster waiting to happen.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

esl_prof wrote:
GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Like I mentioned, I know someone who did the master's at Anaheim (it's not me). He is a really well-trained teacher. The thing is that he isn't American. He has no intention of working in the US and nobody has ever questioned his credentials. And the American idea of regional accreditation etc, actually isn't well understood outside of the US (because it isn't an issue in some other Inner Circle English speaking countries).


This is a valid point and, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, Anaheim may well be an excellent option for folks pursuing TESOL careers in certain countries or regions of the world outside of North America. (Obviously, there are some countries--mostly in the Middle East--that do not accept any sort of online degrees regardless of the type of accreditation.) I would, however, definitely counsel against it if the OP has even the remotest hope of ever teaching in a regionally accredited school in the U.S. or Canada.


It also depends on WHAT one wants to teach. If it is true that a doctorate (ed.d) from Anaheim won't get you a job in North America, then it should be pointed out that a doctorate in language teaching in North America isn't actually for teaching language in North America. It's for becoming a professor / lecturer teaching in masters degrees in TESOL (teacher training as opposed to teaching ESL). You need to have a masters degree in language teaching to get into the ed.d at Anaheim (or probably any other university for language teaching).

But for people in Japan (and Korea, and I suspect other countries), where university job ads are increasingly saying "PhD preferred", many people are choosing to do doctorate studies in order to keep their ability to teach EFL at the university level (many of these people have been in Japan for many years, have families etc. and feel like their are being slowly squeezed out in what can be termed "creeping credentialism"). They don't actually have much (or any) intention to leave the country in which they live and are basically feeling forced by the market to keep up or they may find themselves being told they are too old to work in the k -12 sector, but don't have the desired (in the future, possibly 'required') qualification to continue doing what they have been doing for years (Many schools have a three years or five years and your contract maxes out. You need to find a new job).
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