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What is the most stable and well paid place in Latin Am?
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brice00



Joined: 05 Apr 2005
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Location: Fort Collins, CO

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:26 pm    Post subject: What is the most stable and well paid place in Latin Am? Reply with quote

A newbie looking for advice.

I've got a Masters in English (but not TEFL) and no TEFL cert. I also have three years teaching experience (basic composition and creative writing) and I'm just now beginning my search for TEFL jobs. (I am not sure yet if I'm in for the long haul or just 2-3 years.)

What I want to know, though, is where should I be focusing my search. I'm most interested right now in Argentina and Brazil, but am entirely open to suggestions. I've got student loans to pay off and need to be able to make enough for that. (In other words, I'm not looking to get rich, just pay off loans.) What countries should I be looking at and do I need a TEFL Cert?


Thanks in advance for your help,

Brice
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: What is the most stable and well paid place in Latin Am? Reply with quote

brice00 wrote:
I've got a Masters in English (but not TEFL) and no TEFL cert. I also have three years teaching experience (basic composition and creative writing)

I've got student loans to pay off and need to be able to make enough for that.


Well, nowhere in Latin America, that's for sure.

If you use the 'search' to take a look through this and the other forums, you'll find that your query comes up about once a week or more.

Generally speaking, teaching jobs in Latin America don't pay all that well, and the cost of living will bite deeper into your wages here than in other parts of the world. For example, at a well-paying university job in Mexico, you'd be very lucky to earn 10 thousand pesos a month - about $1000 US. Your rent, utilities, food, and entertainment will take a big chunk of that, say at least half or more. And then if you want to travel in-country or visit back 'home' occasionally - well, bye-bye savings.

My recommendation would be to get a McJob back in your home country, pinch your pennies there, and pay off your debts before heading overseas. You're likely to be able to save more there than if dealing with the expenses of travel.

If you insist on heading overseas right away, my suggestion would be to look at SE Asia. Living expenses are much lower and pay levels can be higher, so it's possible to save several thousand dollars per year if you live modestly.
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ElNota



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why SE Asia? I think you can save a lot more money in Korea, Japan, or Taiwan... if that is your goal.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with ls650. Don't come to work in Latin America if you have student loans. Unless you are planning not to pay them off....
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the five years I have lived in Mexico, I find the cost of living has nearly doubled. Unfortunately the wages don't keep pace, and in fact if you aren't careful you can easily slip into deeper debt here (never mind having enough to pay off existing debt). Try to steer clear of the tourist areas or areas which have been discovered by foreign expats.
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portochuck



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would check out Brazil....Although Im not sure what you think "GOOD MONEY" would be....Most Private English school pay around R$10-14per hour...but you could get a job at a Private School..Primary...or high Shool or maybe one of the many Collegea...and make more.....but you first have to learn Portuguese....after that you could make OK money...but remember the exchange is about 2.5 to 1.....
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pirateinpanama



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stay home if it's a matter of $$$. Even if you have to teach in a small community college in northern North Dakota for $35-$40 grand a year.
You can live very comfortably in this part of the world with the right TEFL job, but to pay off student loans is really something else entirely.
Good luck!
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jello1



Joined: 11 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pirate, where are you from? THe way you wrote N ND makes me think you may be from there.

If so, small world, I spent two years in Grand Forks....
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sheena maclean



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
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Location: Glasgow, Scotland-missing BsAs but loving Glasgow

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: Bogota Reply with quote

Well for the last year I have been working in bogota and it has worked fo me!! Because there aren`t many native speakers here they are especially in demand. I have a mix of private and business students. for my private students I charge 30,000 per hour for one student thats about $12.50 or about $7 for the business peaople thru and intitute. i think this is pretty good money for south america. It is very vheap to live here aswell and you could survive easily on less than $500 permonth.
hope thts helped
sheena
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may be pretty good money if you are teaching 40 hours a week--or at least contracted for that many hours per week. If you choose to spend only about 15 hours a week--maybe 20 maximum--in the classroom it's not enough to live decently and also pay back student loans.
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thelmadatter



Joined: 31 Mar 2003
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Location: in el Distrito Federal x fin!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: disagree Reply with quote

I have to disagree with the posters above. It may be possible for you to find a job with ITESM. They hire teachers for their bicultural and bilingual programs (which teach a number of classes in English, including U.S. history and composition). They probably would hire you for EFL because your degree is in English. Your master's is what I am focusing on here. There is a big push, system-wide to have teachers with master's degrees - an uphill battle for them.

Send me an email or pm ... theres more Id like to share with you if you are interested.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caution required with ITESM.

It is not a politically correct place to work.
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gambasbo



Joined: 23 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely not Bolivia
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bolivia--for someone who wants some excitement--is THE place to be right now.
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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:12 pm    Post subject: OK Reply with quote

OK, Ill bite. What do you mean by

Quote:
Caution required with ITESM.

It is not a politically correct place to work.


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