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AsiaTraveller
Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 908 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Penang, Denpasar, Berkeley
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Zero-Luddy once again continues down the slippery slope toward being banned on the ESL Cafe. Watch him become increasingly indignant when others treat him to a spoonful of his own pedantic and nasty little medicine. |
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Zero Hero
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 944
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:22 am Post subject: |
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I see you got yet another thread locked over on the newbie forum, it is becoming quite a regular occurrence with you. You certainly don't welcome being contradicted do you? As for supervision, anyone who claims the Standard Theory was published in 1969 should be limited to supervising playground activities, as they obviously have no knowledge of generative grammar whatsoever. Anyone who had ever studied linguistics would have had to reference that work at least a hundred times before completing their post graduate work and would never make such a mistake. Similarly, anyone who claims Hong Kong is a "backwater" is obviously on a different planet. |
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Horizontal Hero

Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 2492 Location: The civilised little bit of China.
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:28 am Post subject: |
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During SARS period I took my Chinese girlfriend to western medical clinic in Beijing (she had a cold). The bill for the ten minute consultation was RMB 1500, and to be honest I am not even sure it was a doctor who checked her (the Chinese woman seemed to be a nurse to me). We were given a prescription which would have cost several hundred more RMB (about 700 I think from memory). I walked out with my girlfriend, highly pissed off (after paying the consultation fee), ripped up the prescription paper and went to the yoadian and bought some over-the-counter stuff for a few kwai.
If you are not covered under some medical scheme, medical costs can be ridiculous. |
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Zero Hero
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 944
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:47 am Post subject: |
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Yes, thank you 'H.Hero'. So the HK price quoted by 'Waco' is by no means "ridiculous", then? Indeed, considering most people in HK earn a minimum of 8 times more than their Mainland counterparts and the Mainland price you quote is identical to that in HK, the Mainland is thus 8 times more expensive in (very) real terms. That is what I call ridiculous. Accordingly, I take back my 'a day's wage' comment and in reference to the Mainland and wish to replace it with 'a week's wage'. |
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yaco
Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 473
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:53 am Post subject: std clinics |
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I have found 5 STD clinins in HK.
The standard price for Non HK residents inc tests, consultation and medicine is $700.
The hospital which quoted me $1500 is guilty of extortion. |
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ChrisRose
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 427 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:05 am Post subject: |
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You have found 5 ?
One ponders, did you just search them with regard to this thread, or do you know of the 5 due to personal experience / low impulse control?
Just curious.
As for STD's every government is duty bound to offer free or at least affordable treatment.
When it comes to private sector medicine or government sector, I personally opt. for the government.
A private doctor benefits from seeing you again. e.g. gives you 50% of the required course of meds. (at 200% mark up plus) and will ask you to go back for second consultation.
The government sector in H.K. Well they have no financial motivation to see you again. Heck you are nothing but more paperwork! They will give you enough meds. to last several years, (cost or meds. not usually an issue), and tell you to come back if the symptoms persist. |
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yaco
Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 473
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: STD Clinic's |
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A friend checked the phone book.
Simple !!!!!!! |
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ChrisRose
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 427 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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A phone book!
You know it has been so long since I have bothered to collect one of those. I just use online searches these days.
The skills of turning a page are rapidly being lost with every progressing generation.
Me thinks, me has created a pretty cool quote there.
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prplfairy
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 102
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Methinks you should not pat yourself on the back so vigorously as you might dislodge something useful, like a better quote. |
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AsiaTraveller
Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 908 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Penang, Denpasar, Berkeley
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Zero Hero wrote: |
The price would seem normal. Wouldn't such a series of tests and checks also cost a day's wages in the US or the UK (and the Mainland)? |
This is where Zero Luddy went wrong originally, and he�s still wrong. A series of STD tests and checks simply does NOT cost a day's wages in the U.S.
It might be a "normal" price for Luddy to pay in HK after a weekend of debauchery, but Chris Rose has already told us that there are public clinics in HK (as there are in the U.S. and U.K.) where STD tests are virtually free. The price of HK$1600 is therefore quite ridiculous--unless one insists on going to a private physician.
However, if the zero is being paid $0 for his labors in his much-(self)-vaunted uni, then perhaps those free STD tests in HK would indeed cost "a day's wages" for him.
yaco, you can find listings of the free HK Social Hygiene Clinics (for both women and men) at the following site:
http://www.info.gov.hk/dh/telephon/candc_e.htm
And here is the public policy on STDs in HK (an excerpt from the Social Hygiene Handbook, included on the online site of the Hong Kong Medical Journal):
http://www.hkmj.org.hk/skin/stdintro.htm
... Generally speaking, the adopted strategy in the prevention and control of STDs in the past decades is effective in Hong Kong. Both therapeutic and preventive aspects are emphasized. The main policy and practice in Social Hygiene Service are summarized as follows:
1) The treatment of STDs remains on voluntary basis. Venereal diseases (VDs) are not notifiable by law and no patient would be forced to receive treatment or brought under surveillance against his/her will. The success of STD control depends on the voluntary cooperation of patients.
2) The treatment of STDs is completely free of charge in Social Hygiene Clinics. No patient will be turned away because of financial reasons.
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arodeorowdy
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 125 Location: Shenzhen, China
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Zero hero - your wrong! your first post was just stupid spunk intended to dis the op. So you should have swallowed it yourself instead of spunking on this thread.
I just got checked in the San Francisco City Clinic (and this is about THE MOST EXPENSIVE City to live in in the whole US of A) and all my checks were complimentary and I got everything: rod&tackle inspection, throat swab, anal swab, urine test and blood draw. Even a Hep. A shot. All billed to the taxpayers which is me since I pay sales tax 2 this city too. And I even got the free dose of Cefpodoxime to combat my invaders.
Mabuhay, rowdy4bush |
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yaco
Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 473
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject: STD Clinics |
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It costs $700 HK for non HK residents to visit an STD clinic.
There is a catch - this includes doctor's consultation, tests and medicine, but you must pay another $700 to receive the results. |
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Zero Hero
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 944
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 3:06 am Post subject: |
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Thank you, 'Yaco, so I was right, of course.
If the price wasn't that high the facilities would be flooded with Mainlanders trying to get decent treatment for a change. |
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once again
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 815
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure what you were right about Zero. You originally said that 1,600 was a days wages in HK. Are you still saying that 1,600 equates to a days wages here? If we mulitply 1,600 by 30 we get 48,000. Are you saying that the average salary per month in HK is $48,000?
If so, then please quote a source for your fact.
Of course, you will not be able to. But go on, really try. You have said that you were right. Tell us which part you were right about. |
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Zero Hero
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 944
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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I was right in every regard, as you well know. It is not my fault you do not have the qualifications or the experience it takes to attract a decent salary here in Hong Kong. |
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