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oyanlan



Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Location: Shandong

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2003 4:26 am    Post subject: want to head to Thailand. Reply with quote

Hi there.
I'm teaching in China at the moment and thinking about moving to Thailand for a while, going sometime between July and October. I've emailed a few schools and it seems they only look for teachers 2-3 weeks before they need the position to be filled. Not good for someone whos slightly anal about being organised.
Also I'd rather not work in Bangkok. Preferrably, a nice small city with enough foreigners to have a nice time. (Anyone living in a place like this at the moment, I would appreciate your comments)
Do I save now and just show up and look for work? Is there a chance I could blow my small budget before finding a job? How much would I need to bring to survive before I could find a job? I'm TEFL trained but have no degree.
Any advice would be much appreciated, Thanks, Niamh
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gecko



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that the best thing for you to do is to just show up and look for a job when you get there. Make sure you have at least 40,000THB in your pocket. That's about 7,862.21 CNY. But the more money the better.

As far as the degree is concerned I probably would worry too much about it, it just means that you will have to do lots of visa runs.

Good luck
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WorkingVaca



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:40 pm    Post subject: Small towns Reply with quote

For small towns, check out the north: Chiang Rai, Lampang or even Udan Thani. There's also Chiang Mai, but it's a bit touristy.
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Hed_Kandi



Joined: 06 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gecko wrote:
I would say that the best thing for you to do is to just show up and look for a job when you get there. Make sure you have at least 40,000THB in your pocket. That's about 7,862.21 CNY. But the more money the better.

As far as the degree is concerned I probably would worry too much about it, it just means that you will have to do lots of visa runs.

Good luck


It's always good to have atleast $1000 USD or 2 months living expenses before you decide to teach in Thailand.
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Sheep-Goats



Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: want to head to Thailand. Reply with quote

oyanlan wrote:
Hi there.
1) Not good for someone whos slightly anal about being organised.

2) Also I'd rather not work in Bangkok. Preferrably, a nice small city with enough foreigners to have a nice time. (Anyone living in a place like this at the moment, I would appreciate your comments)

3) Do I save now and just show up and look for work? Is there a chance I could blow my small budget before finding a job? How much would I need to bring to survive before I could find a job? I'm TEFL trained but have no degree.


1) You better get over that if you want to have a good time here. Thais are horribly organized and expect you to adhere to the same standards to not be seen as a trouble maker. This horrible organization is part of the reason that 99% of schools don't hire people before they arrive and have been interviewed.


2) What do you mean, a "nice small city with enough foreigners to have a good time"? I understand why you ask this, becasue I've taught in China before, too. But in Thailand, you have fun with the Thais who are generally immensely more ameiable and fun loving than the twisted group of farang we have running around here. And in Thailand, small towns are usually very similar to any poor part of Bangkok and quite boring. There are exceptions. The town of Trat, near the Cambodian border and close to Ko Chang, has the nicest Thai people I've met (that's saying a lot). But it is boring there.

Anyway, what I'm saying is a) you don't need farang for a good time -- very different from China, and b) your should sample small Thai towns first to see if they're for you. Many farang find that even if they like small towns back home, Bangkok is better for them here. There's also the Chiang Mai option, which is like living in a small town but with oodles (too many, actually) of foreingers and 90% of the conveniences of Bangkok (but still a bit boring) -- the drawback is that everyone knows this and wages in Chiang Mai are the lowest of anywhere in Thailand -- and work probably harder to get there than anywhere else. Still possible.

3) You have to be in Thailand and have a Thai cell number to be a real person to 90% of the schools here -- and 100% of the good schools here. If you have to, you can live on 200B a day in Thailand, including rent, but that's barely "living." 800B a day (20USD) is a much more reasonable and livable figure. I lived for two months and put a deposit on an apartment with only 800USD in my pocket, but I've never met anyone here who did it for less. The more money you bring the better, but at least 1000USD, and more likely 1500USD, is necessary. Remember, you won't get paid on the day you start working, but one month after that day...

Not having a degree is a serious problem for you, and it will keep you out of all of the better jobs. Plenty of people here get by with no degree, but they aren't usually teaching English. The market for teachers in Thailand is more demanding than China's, and you'll really need to step up your game to overcome that lack of degree.
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cujobytes



Joined: 14 May 2004
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Location: Zhuhai, (Sunny South) China.

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 2:35 am    Post subject: > Reply with quote

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t's always good to have atleast $1000 USD or 2 months living expenses before you decide to teach in Thailand.


Now you're GIVING advice ???
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Dunk



Joined: 05 Apr 2005
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Location: Bangkok

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I would disagree with Sheep-Goats on the living solely with Thais thing. You need to have at least some farang around you to avoid feeling a bit isolated I think. Its important to have cultural reference points and banter etc with people who know where you're coming from - so to speak !

So, a smallish town with a farang presence would be a great idea. Lampang is nice, as Working Vaca said, and I saw a few language institutes up there recently while on a break. Also, how about the central towns such as Sukothai, Lopburi or Ayuthayya ? I hear Roi Et in the NE is also pleasant.

I really like Bangkok as it goes, its not as clogged or as jammed as you may think, and you have access to life's little comforts as well as being very well placed to escape to some nice places if you want to.

I would say 1000 Baht a day is needed when you pay for accommodation and get around and eat, have the odd beer etc etc before you set yourself up.

It might be an idea to sort out a flat sharpish when you arrive, as opposed to spending a month in a guesthouse for example. You can pay anything from 2500 - 4000 Bt a month for a nice clean studio and save a bit of cash that way.

Check out ajarn.com for loads of those regional jobs.

Good luck with the search,

Dunk.
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tedkarma



Joined: 17 May 2004
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Location: The World is my Oyster

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand the OP's needs regarding being organized. I flew into BKK couple months before leaving my previous job - organized my next job in advance and flew back out.

Maybe too expensive to set up from China.

Most organizations though - don't think very far in advance. It is worth fishing a bit though - as you can find yourself locked into a less than advantageous situation. Changing jobs is not so easy - as you may have to leave the country (if your new employer can't get things put together quickly) - and all the attendant costs.

I'd go with the minimum US$1000 for the move - and even that would be very low for me. I'd need double that. But then I am an old man set in his ways.
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sigmoid



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I've heard that teaching in China is so much better than teaching in Thailand. Do you really want to go to Thailand? Not having a degree will exclude you from most legitimate jobs.

I would say yeah just show up but contact as many potential employers as you can beforehand. Let them know you're coming, try to set up interviews and also get some information about them and the positions they need filled. That way once you get there you won't be lost, but will have some definite directions to head. Almost all provincial capitals in Thailand have some type of teaching work available.
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