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molly farquharson
Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 839 Location: istanbul
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:44 pm Post subject: ambiguity |
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For the yabanci here, how do you feel about constantly living in ambiguity? My turkish is not bad, but it does run out and sometimes I am not quite sure what is going on. Mostly it contributes to the constant adventure of living here, but sometimes it is frustrating and/or irritating. What do you think? |
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yaramaz

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 2384 Location: Not where I was before
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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I have to admit that I gave gotten used to the concept of never quite knowing what's going on... |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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I have to admit that I gave gotten used to the concept of never quite knowing what's going on... |
i think it is your round. I'll have an Efes |
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the pusherman

Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 31 Location: istanbul
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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You could always try learning better Turkish... Not that that always helps, mind you.
By the way, like the new avatar, yaramaz you naughty thing. |
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yaramaz

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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Pushy, I am trying to learn but am not the fastest learner on the block. It's starting to kick in more though-- I realised last year that I could actually understand what I thought I couldnt.
BTW, thanks. I like the new me too. I think it looks like me  |
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the pusherman

Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 31 Location: istanbul
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, it does look at bit like you - how do you keep your balance?
The learning Turkish comment wasn't necessarily aimed at you (though I could hardly miss!). |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 6:42 am Post subject: |
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I'll bite, go on, continue |
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Golightly

Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 877 Location: in the bar, next to the raki
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 8:16 am Post subject: |
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When I came back to the UK a few years back, I felt distinctly dazed as I walked through the Arrivals hall at Heathrow. All the adverts in English, English newspapers, the constant babble of English all around me...it was, for a few minutes, strangely dreamy...
I knew I was back in Blighty when some woman behind me bellowed at one of her offspring, 'Gavin! Gavin, yer little c**t! Get yer A**e over 'ere right nahhh, yer little s*d!'
Ah yes..... |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Hmm... reverse culture shock. After you finally manage to get out of Heathrow it is a bit weird and you remember why you left in the first place( all those feral kids) When i was last back in the UK i was in Scotland and the NE of England. I sometimes had problems understanding people. Of course it is nice to see family and friends but the honeymoon lasts about 4 days for me. Also everyone thinks you are weird. You visit someone's house and the first thing you do is go to kiss them hello(they then think you are gay) then you take off your shoes when you enter their house and they wonder what you are doing. The list goes on |
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dmb

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 8:48 am Post subject: |
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in hiking up the price of alcohol so dramatically, although it's still more expensive in the UK.
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Isn't there a new entertainment tax coming in soon. Then alcohol will be the same price as the uk. If the current government continues to pick on raki and beer drinkers they will lose the next election. |
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dmb

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Addendum
I watched a dvd the other night-Dead man's boots. I understood the Turkish sub titles better than the thick mancunian accents in the film |
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molly farquharson
Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 839 Location: istanbul
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:51 am Post subject: |
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yes, the ambiguity is "back home" too-- wherever that is. I know the only Canadian thing about me now is my passport. I left Canada many years ago and when I was there a couple of yrs ago i felt like i was in a dream. Then last summer when i went back to the states, it was weird again because i look like them but i'm not like them anymore. of course they think i'm weird too because i don't act like them-- like dmb's kiss-kiss and shoes off example.
do any of you want to go back "home"? |
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molly farquharson
Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 839 Location: istanbul
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:57 am Post subject: |
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so do you feel at home here? or are you home-less? |
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dmb

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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I think 'hey, your an arsehole, |
Just because you have sussed out that you can use that word and not get beeped , doesnt mean you have to use it in every post  |
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calsimsek

Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 775 Location: Ist Turkey
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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O.K read all of the above and started to think, whats the cut off date.
At what point is it too late to return. I left Melb in 1992 and went back for a 4 week hoilday in 2000. I hated it.
For me it's to late. I think I have missed the jump off point.
SO the question to one and all, is when is it too late to go home
Is there a point in time when, the place you live and work in becomes home.  |
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