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QUESTION PLEASE: CONVERTING RMB IN AUSTRALIA
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millie



Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Location: HK

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is legal to take out RMB 20,000 now but as Lily has mentioned too, no-one seems to be on the look-out for greater amounts of cash anyway.

Next, if you are not sure about exchange rates, change RMB --> US$ (on the grey market if need be) and take those back.
(I think I PM'ed you about this.) The US$ cash can be put into your BoC a/c.

Finally, you are supposed to declare amounts greater than AUD$10,000 or equivalent in cash on entry to Oz but again I have not seen a system that looks for this. It seems to be self-disclosure.

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lilian



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

millie I haven't received a PM from you. I cannot go to the 'grey market' here alone; too dangerous, and no one around to help. This place is full of thieves; I have been robbed here twice so I am not going to get into trouble. I dont mind a lower exchange rate. So if I could not convert the extra amount I will just take the cash to Oz+US dollars, if I did not get robbed at the airport.
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ChinaLady



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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Location: Guangzhou, Guangdong PRC

PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 4:38 am    Post subject: RMB to Aussie money? Reply with quote

soooooo, easy. I spent winter break in NZ. my "knowledgable" China travel agent was going to "introduce me to her brother" for my money situation. of course, her "brother" wanted USD for the Aussie or NZ money.
on a hunch I took RMB with me.
walked into the Sidney Airport and did the exchange right there.
once in NZ, I could walk into ANY bank and they exchanged RMB on the spot. (should have brought more RMB instead of USD!)
there are so many Chinese students there studying "english" in chinese schools that they willingly exchange.
the rate? well, it varied on what the NZ dollar was doing on that day.
forget the Hong Kong trip.
not needed.
(o, yes, only in the airport did they ask for my passport. none of the banks cared at the least.)
have a great exchange!
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deezy



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I feel quite a dummy now, as I exchanged my rmb for US dollars in December when I returned to Oz for a month, and then exchanged the US dollars into Aussie dollars, and really lost out. Now you're saying that I could have just taken the rmb and walked into the Westpac and they'd've changed the rmb for me!

I tried doing a transfer or exchange at the Bank of China, but having to produce proof that I'd paid tax was just too problematic. The Bank of China in Melbourne said it was EASY... well, it definitely wasn't easy here in Weihai, they simply didn't understand (or said they didn't understand) the process!

So when I go back for a trip in August, maybe I'll check out the exchange rate at the Westpac before going through all those dramas again.
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lilian



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you would have to convert into US and then Oz dollar; it is normal practice as the latter is not readily available, certainly not in china. I will also go through the same process, so dont feel you did something silly.
However, as you can see from the posts here, if you convert RMB directly into Oz dollar in Australia you are probably going to lose more. So all in all, you are bound to lose some in this process.

I have also been considering sending my money via the bank here to Oz, but dont have the nerves...given the mess you are likely to end up in. I would not try to do that. Chinese banks are not used to dealing with foreign banks and thoroughness, carefulness and attention to details are things unheard of here in working processes (amongst other things). So take the cash with you, as the students say, 'in my opinion'.
lillian
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deezy



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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya
My husband wandered into a Westpac in Melbourne a few days ago, and they told him that for every 100 rmb they would give him A$14. There is a limit of A$10,000. Hope that helps.
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millie



Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Deezy,

Very valuable and useful information for anyone taking RMB back to Oz and it makes it all very simple now.
Many thanks Very Happy

(BTW: I changed RMB in HK on 11 May 2005 and received AUD$15.518 for RMB 100.
A little better by some 10% but certainly not an issue unless you have a a brick of RMB.)


Millie
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lilian



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have now received a reply from Commonwealth bank: they do not trade in RMB at all. They have suggested going to Thomas Cook or American Express.
So I don't know about other banks in Oz, but, millie, $15 for 100 RBM is a terrible rate indeed; the rate on the Internet money conversion site is about $A1=7RMB, as I remember.
lilian
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deezy



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my husband walked right into the Bank of Melbourne, (Westpac) and was given this information.... $14 or $15 for 100 rmb. The exchange rate has been 6.8 for a while, but with the Aussie dollar now going down, it may be more. (or is it less....I can never work that one out!). Before I go back for my break in August I'll get him to check it out again.
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millie



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello lilian,

Glad to see you are an English teacher and not a Maths teacher because if the latter then I would be really worried. Smile

The rate per 100 RMB (given in AUD but not per one dollar) equates to:
AUD$1 = RMB 6.444

(The calculation: 100 RMB divide by 15.518 equals 6.44 RMB per dollar which is pretty good for selling RMB and buying AUD$)

However, if you are not going via HK, then carrying US$ cash or deezy’s advice seem to be obvious choices.

Cheers
M