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jibbs
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| I met quite a few guys in HCMC in 2004 who had no degree and were making Ok money at schools, and/or doing tutoring. It seemed to me you can just buy a "business visa" good for 6 months to stay there, and work wherever you'll be taken in. Many "schools" ask for nothing but your foreign face and native English. They check nothing and hire you on the spot, at least for a few hours per week anyway. The main thing seemed to be, just show up in a shirt, and maybe even a tie. Unless the students complain the job is yours to keep. |
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Ajarn Miguk
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:02 am Post subject: Rules |
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| I met quite a few guys in HCMC in 2004 who had no degree and were making Ok money at schools, and/or doing tutoring. It seemed to me you can just buy a "business visa" good for 6 months to stay there, and work wherever you'll be taken in. Many "schools" ask for nothing but your foreign face and native English. They check nothing and hire you on the spot, at least for a few hours per week anyway. The main thing seemed to be, just show up in a shirt, and maybe even a tie. Unless the students complain the job is yours to keep. |
The rules have changed since 2004. The problem now seems to be that no one is quite sure what the rules are or mean. |
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Mr Wind-up Bird
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Many "schools" ask for nothing but your foreign face and native English. They check nothing and hire you on the spot, at least for a few hours per week anyway. The main thing seemed to be, just show up in a shirt, and maybe even a tie. Unless the students complain the job is yours to keep. |
Yes, but is that teaching? Why should people like that enjoy the same working conditions and pay as those who have the proper qualifications and experience, and who actually give a damn about the students? |
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H5N1
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| I met quite a few guys in HCMC in 2004 who had no degree and were making Ok money at schools, and/or doing tutoring. It seemed to me you can just buy a "business visa" good for 6 months to stay there, and work wherever you'll be taken in. Many "schools" ask for nothing but your foreign face and native English. They check nothing and hire you on the spot, at least for a few hours per week anyway. The main thing seemed to be, just show up in a shirt, and maybe even a tie. Unless the students complain the job is yours to keep. |
2004 was last year.
You are in Korea now. You are not even working in Veitnam now.
Things are changing drastically here. |
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sigmoid
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| Why should people like that enjoy the same working conditions and pay as those who have the proper qualifications and experience |
Because the market demands it.
The most important qualification for a foreign TEFL teacher in any of these developing countries is a willingness to show up, usually after paying for a flight themselves, in that country and to live in that country for an extended period of time. The amount of people with that qualification is fairly limited, especially in the case of Viet Nam. |
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junkmail
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Some countries require a degree, some a degree or TESOL, some a degree, or two year diploma plus TESOL.
Is Vietnam trying for the highest entry requirements in Asia?
Won't this simply lead to alot of illegal teachers? |
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