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pcdavid04



Joined: 19 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: greetings... Reply with quote

hello all,

this is my first post, please be gentle...lol.

i am going to be arriving in Taiwan in July and hope i can count on you folks to answer a few of my questions?? i thought i'd give teaching english for pay a shot. i served in Peace Corps in Honduras and taught english informally (read: unpaid). i really enjoyed the experience and would like to continue to do it and get paid at the same time!

i'm not sure that my experience will be all that impressive to buxibans because it was very informal. i simply made up sign-up sheets and posted them in my village...i had never done anything like it before. i developed a simple curriculum and essentially flew by the seat of my pants. classes were twice a week at 2 hours per session. the students, who ranged in age from 8 to about 50, seemed to really enjoy the class. it was heart-breaking when i had to leave.

is this something i should place emphasis on when i meet/interview with possible employers?

also, i keep reading about "demo's" as part of the interview process. what exactly is a demo, and how do i prepare for it?

thanks for your time,
david
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matchstick_man



Joined: 21 May 2003
Posts: 244
Location: Taiwan

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A demo is a short sample lesson. Preparation for it depends upon the schools policies....some give you an overnight period to sort out what you want to do. Others will have you give the demo right there on the spot.

A lot of the whole demo thing depends on how desperate or fussy the school is and sometimes where the school location is. I've given two demos and had three different jobs here in Taiwan. I didn't get either job I did a demo for. I've still had a number of different jobs here.

As for your experience, I think you'll be fine.
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markholmes



Joined: 21 Jun 2004
Posts: 661
Location: Wengehua

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the managers/bosses you interview with won't know the word'informal' so don't even bring it up. Its an interview, stretch the truth a little, after all its not like they are going to check.

There's lots of teachers flying by the seat of their pants and most of them had less experience than you when they arrived.

My first teaching experience was the same as yours, only in southern China. You'll be fine, trust me.
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Aristotle



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Taiwan

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A demonstration is basically little more than a formality. It is a chance for the boss to get a good look at you and little more.
Please read this.
http://www.geocities.com/taiwanteacher2002/Success.html
Good luck!
A.
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clark.w.griswald



Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is probably worth mentioning that the government banned the requirement of conducting demo classes in front of students some months ago. Demos can still be conducted in front of training staff and teachers etc but you may be able to avoid a demo by politely declining on the grounds that it is illegal.
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pcdavid04



Joined: 19 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent. thanks for the feedback folks...it alleviates some of my stress.
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Ki



Joined: 23 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clark, sure legally you may decline the demo, maybe you should even insist on being paid for it, but if you stick to your guns and decline giving a demo then wouldn't that basically help you to LOSE the job in favor of a more willing canditate? Don't get me wrong. I certainly agree that it is the teacher's right and even maybe obligation to not do the demo but if you were the hiring party of the school would you give the job to the person who did the demo (and showed that the were capable) or to the person who declined on legal grounds?

David, a demo will last about 20 minutes. Keep it simple. Don't try to do too much.
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clark.w.griswald



Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ki wrote:
Clark, sure legally you may decline the demo, maybe you should even insist on being paid for it, but if you stick to your guns and decline giving a demo then wouldn't that basically help you to LOSE the job in favor of a more willing canditate? Don't get me wrong. I certainly agree that it is the teacher's right and even maybe obligation to not do the demo but if you were the hiring party of the school would you give the job to the person who did the demo (and showed that the were capable) or to the person who declined on legal grounds?


Ki, I totally agree with you, and was merely pointing the legality issue out as it is possible to avoid giving a demo by raising the question as to the legality of it. Having said that, you would want to do so carefully as you don't want to come across as questioning the procedures of a company you are seeking work with. I agree that if you really want that particular job then you probably best just suck it up and give a good demo.
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