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JZer



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ElNota, Well if that is what makes you happy but I have a different opinion on this matter. I don't believe that we should just let moonraven beat people over the head with a lot of facts. People like Moonraven are too used to throwing out a lot of facts at people who do not agree with them and they win arguements because it appears to people with less knowledge that people such as Moonraven are correct when they may not be.
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gambasbo



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anytime you come here, Matt, I'll even buy you a Cappuccino. (8.5 Bolivianos!) (I know a great place for coffees)

I still feel,'if only', but we were lucky to get into the play offs last year, as we were grateful to Bran Deane's goal that kept Wigan out. Enjoyed the ride but will miss seeing Palace on Fox Sports.

Anyway, Congratulations, but please stay away from our players!!

Mike
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sickbag



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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gambasbo wrote:
Anytime you come here, Matt, I'll even buy you a Cappuccino. (8.5 Bolivianos!) (I know a great place for coffees)

I still feel,'if only', but we were lucky to get into the play offs last year, as we were grateful to Bran Deane's goal that kept Wigan out. Enjoyed the ride but will miss seeing Palace on Fox Sports.

Anyway, Congratulations, but please stay away from our players!!

Mike


Apologies to everyone who doesn't care.

Gambasbo and Matt - you may not have seen this yet. But today WBA offered Earnshaw in exchange for Andy Johnson WITH NO CASH. LOL. That's too funny.

Commiserations Gambasbo, I'll be in Mexico from next month with no access to see Saints in The Championship (Div 2, surely?).
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matttheboy



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even more apologies to people who don't care but from The Guardian's Fiver:

QUOTE OF THE DAY

"The chairman of Southampton contacted me about the manager's job. Who knows what would have happened if I had gone there? Maybe they wouldn't be in the position they find themselves in now" - Portsmouth boss Alain Perrin gives Southampton a good kicking when they're down.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

And i think we offered Earnshaw and 2 million although i personally think Johnson was a 1 season wonder who in reality only scored 9 goals seeing as he got 10 penalties. What a joke and what a complete diver. See

http://football.guardian.co.uk/gallery/0,8555,1480600,00.html

and

http://football.guardian.co.uk/gallery/0,8555,1433791,00.html

for much entertainment at the expense of both your teams' "star" strikers...
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If folks can tear themselves away from soccer madness, they might see that there is a lot in Internet about Bolivia right now, since the neo-liberal, US-backed government has gone down for the count for the second time in a year and a half. Exciting stuff.
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Aramas



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
If folks can tear themselves away from soccer madness, they might see that there is a lot in Internet about Bolivia right now, since the neo-liberal, US-backed government has gone down for the count for the second time in a year and a half. Exciting stuff.


I agree. It's much more interesting than football. I keep expecting the protesters to be labelled as 'insurgents' or even 'terrorists', and US 'advisors' deployed throughout the region. Still, I gather that most of the gas industry at the centre of the scuffle is Brazilian owned - disappointing really, as I'd much rather see a Yank company get cornholed.

My metaphorical money is on Evo being elected on a gas nationalisation platform. With Bolivia following in the Bolivarian footsteps of Venezuela, I wonder how long it will take for the media hacks to start trotting out 'domino effects' and 'election fraud', and labelling Evo as a 'demagogue'.
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Weona



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want some first-hand information! Gambasbo - what is it like being there? It seems like most of the unrest is taking place in the cities of Sucre and La Paz but I'm sure you've witnesses activity in your city as well. What has been happening?
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gambasbo



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cocahabamba not too bad this week. Some blockades in city centre last week including Monday of this week. Tuesday and Wednesday full blown bus strike. OK this morning but may blow up again this afternoon. Par for the course, really!!

Noticed this morning that the supermarket I go to was running out of red meat and some vegetables.

Mike
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aramas: The US has been gunning, LITERALLY (death threats included) for Evo since he was nearly elected president in 2002. They have vilified him in the most heinous terms, have denied him a visa to attend meetings in the US, etc. They will continue their hackneyed strategy on all fronts.
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darkhorse



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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People like Moonraven are too used to throwing out a lot of facts at people


And I just hate it when that happens........

Facts blow. I like subjective opinion, wishful thinking, hidden agendas, lies and manipulation disguised as facts. But hey, I'm from the U.S.
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Aramas



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkhorse wrote:
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People like Moonraven are too used to throwing out a lot of facts at people


And I just hate it when that happens........

Facts blow. I like subjective opinion, wishful thinking, hidden agendas, lies and manipulation disguised as facts. But hey, I'm from the U.S.



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