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Racism, sexism and the inner peace
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selmo



Joined: 12 Jun 2003
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Location: China

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:50 am    Post subject: Racism, sexism and the inner peace Reply with quote

I find it strange that the majority of nasty comments on this forum come from Men (even if they have agirls name-sorry elsie). I think that this is due to the fact that the majority of men -not all - come to Asia or other exotic places not looking for cultural experiences but more to find a wife. I am unsure why so many of the women do not find native partners? I find the whole thing in Asia especially is based on racism they dislike and distrust the race of people who they are here basically to try and bed.

All comments are welcome
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kimo



Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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this is due to the fact that the majority of men -not all - come to Asia or other exotic places not looking for cultural experiences but more to find a wife.


You might be right. I have never taken a poll. Have you?

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I find the whole thing in Asia especially is based on racism they dislike and distrust the race of people who they are here basically to try and bed.


Not sure I really understand what you have written. However, I think you are saying that one group of people does not like another group so the first group heads ("goes" if you don't understand) to the country of the group it does not like. That I know I can't understand.
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Bertrand



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you are right, but I really don't know. I think there is an element of truth in what you write. The answer to the men vs women situation is easy to answer: Asian women are great looking whereas Asian men are, well, hardly attractive to Western women (at least, that is what I have been told on numerous occasions).
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bnix



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:28 am    Post subject: Desperately Seeking Ms.Goodbar??? In Asia? Reply with quote

Selmo's assumption that most(or even many) guys come to Asia (or anywhere else,for that matter),"looking for a wife",instead of "cultural experiences" Laughing Laughing Laughing is a pretty simplistic statement indeed.I have not taken a poll,either,but I doubt if the desire to find that FAIR Someone is the prime motivation for most guys to get on the plane.How about the ever-popular $$$$$$$ as a motivating factor?That seems more likely in my opinion.Sure,a lot of guys are not adverse to having a little "adventure" with some distaff foreigner, but LOOKING FOR A WIFE? Maybe in a few cases...but not a prime reason.
As to your assertion that more males post more aggressive posts...well,maybe.With some of the neutral "handles"(e.g."selmo")...it is often difficult to tell the gender of the poster,unless it is made clear in their post(s).
I think your idea about most males coming over to look for a wife is pretty much out in left field. Rolling Eyes
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Marcoregano



Joined: 19 May 2003
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Location: Hong Kong

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does seem that most of the negates (or should that be negatees) on this forum are males. For some reason, this does not surprise me, sad though it is. There simply seem to be more angst-ridden males wanting to slag people off or do damage than there are females. Why I don't know. However, I don't believe that many male teachers are motivated to come to Asia mainly to find a wife or to indulge in the fleshpots. While that may be true of a few I think that this generalisation applies more to sad retired businessmen-types, and most of them can be found in Pattaya and Bangkok. I agree with bnix that finding a job is the main reason.

However, it is certainly true that more western guys (teachers) end up with Asian girlfriends or wives than vice versa. My take on this is that western guys are happy to overlook the the rather backward social/mental development of Asians (yikes!!) for their obvious physical attributes, whereas western women (understandably) are not - they don't want a male partner who expects them to wait on him hand and foot. Or worse if he's Korean. Or Japanese. Or Hong Kongese. Er...need I go on?
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:39 am    Post subject: Men are ( generally ) from Mars Reply with quote

Here's my armchair psychology, two-cents worth on the topic. I think that most of the " nasty comments " come from men simply because men tend to be more " nasty " than women. This is a BIG generalization, so sorry, but generalizations aren't ALWAYS wrong. Men more readily exhibit aggressiveness and ego whereas women more often seek to communicate and interact. Well, that's been my experience, anyway, although there are a significant number of exceptions. There's a reason " macho " is a commonly used word - what's the feminine equivalent? And if you don't like my post, why go - you know.
Regards,
Macho John
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bnix



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:14 am    Post subject: Macho,Macho Man Reply with quote

Yah...we all know-"Real Men Don't Eat Quiche"..... "Real Men Go to Saudi" Smile
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Steiner



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with johnslat on why most of the nasty comments come from men. It also seems that the majority of posters here are male, so the majority of nasty posts come from males.

Of course it's hard to tell and even when a nasty poster has a female name (let's take, oh, Cynthia, for example) everyone assumes that poster to be a man in woman's clothing.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:28 am    Post subject: A Few Good Men Reply with quote

Dear bnix,
"Real Men Don't Eat Quiche"..... Real Men Go to Saudi"

Well, although it'll probably destroy my carefully cultivated macho image, I rather like quiche. And a number of my colleagues here over the years would be more than a little surprised to hear themselves designated as " real men " - seeing as how so many have other, nastier labels for " that sort ". No, I don't think it takes an excess of testosterone to come here; just a need for a bigger that usual EFL salary and an ability to get along without many outside diversions.
Regards,
Quiche-liking John
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Marcoregano



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:52 am    Post