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ELS-Bell CUTS

 
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cheeseandegg



Joined: 26 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:01 pm    Post subject: ELS-Bell CUTS Reply with quote

Staff working for ELS-Bell (Gdansk, Warsaw, Gdynia, Szczecin, Bydgosz, Lodz) have confirmed that they have been informed of cuts to all schools next year. All current teaching staff will face wage freezes (read: major cuts). This has badly affected moral in Warsaw and Szczecin and many experienced and new staff will be leaving.
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Selyer



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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Location: Poland

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Second the motion Reply with quote

Ain't that just always the way of things? Certain IH schools in Poland are doing something very similar with some very similar results--and they already pay pretty low as it is! Twisted Evil
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gregoryfromcali



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would these schools be cutting their staff when they don't even know what their enrollment will be next year?

Did these schools have a bad year?
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Selyer



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the case of the schools that I am referring to, the owner has implemented a new "budget scheme" one aspect of which was to cut wages. Most teachers don't want to come back to a school for less money than they earned the year before. And to my knowledge enrollment at these schools has not gone down significantly. There is a rumor that started to float around towards the end of last year and still occasionally raises its ugly head that the owner wants to sell some of his schools. This year the twist to that rumor is that the budget cuts would make it look like the school is more profitable than what it actually is, which would aid in the selling of it. But like I said, it's just a rumor.....
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booty



Joined: 22 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: Cuts in Poland Reply with quote

People say that the same thing is happening with many schools all over Poland. However, others arue that some students aren't prepared to pay for poor teaching standards, and many are dropping out as a result
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caramel



Joined: 25 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Bell are having a hard time at the moment. They overestimated on the amount of students that were coming this year. I won't be staying in Bell another because of this situation. I hope they turn around as it has been a good school to work with.
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Will.



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since the advent of the expanded Europe many people from the new member states have gone to work in the UK and other countries of Europe. over 125,000 came to the UK from Poland. These people would normally have attended language classes in English while in Poland, now they do not. They are entitled to Free English classes as part of the workforce needing language and literacy skills...and they can work here and earn good money to send home.
It would be interesting to know just how many language schools have suffered a reduction of numbers in the 18-30 age bracket.
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gregoryfromcali



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They are entitled to Free English classes as part of the workforce needing language and literacy skills...and they can work here and earn good money to send home.


That makes a lot of sense. Why spend money to pass the FCE exam when in a few months you'll be immersed in an English speaking environment?

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It would be interesting to know just how many language schools have suffered a reduction of numbers in the 18-30 age bracket.


On the other hand, this may also encourage some college students, who still have years to go before graduation, with the thought that someday that may actually live in an English speaking country.
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Will.



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the subject of the FCE.
Many high school students have to take an obligatory language course as part of their university education. For many it means sitting in a class with a non-native speaker/teacher for four years or until the end of the course, with those who have not studied a language as part of the group too. It is not altogether an interesting option and many vote for the FCE option. This is often accepted by the Uni or College as a suitable example of ability in a foreign language... the reason for the obligatory course.
to gain this qualification means several years of after school training in the language schools. Now many 18/19 year olds are taking an alternative, A year off as an au pair in England or working a crap job but getting free teaching and then going back to Uni after a year and not needing to go to classes... over 4 years it all adds up so they save time.
I wonder how FCE classes and exam registrations have been hit in Poland
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