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gazzby
Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:36 am Post subject: What's it really like being a JET or an ALT? |
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I'm thinking about applying for a teaching position in the JET program or through one of the big private companies which supply ALTs to elementary, junior high and/or high schools? What's it really like? What could I expect in regards to pay, work hours, job satisfaction...? |
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:30 am Post subject: |
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What's it really like? |
It's really nice.
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What could I expect in regards to pay |
Pays well. Results vary with company.
Work is usually about 8 to 5.
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job satisfaction...? |
Job satisfaction: is all up to you. You get what you put into it.
This is a great forum... You'll find good answers to most of your questions. Just remember to read the stickies, lurk before you post, do a "search" before you ask a question that's been posted many times... And remember, if you want quality answers, keep your questions specific and concise. General questions won't help you much.
Eg.
Bad question: What's Osaka like?
Good question: What does Osaka have in the way of international centers where I can meet other foreigners?
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:35 am Post subject: |
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For an unabashed description of life as a JET ALT, go to www.bigdaikon.com . I also suggest you look at the links on that site for other JET sites. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:49 am Post subject: |
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JET program survey
http://www.zen13795.zen.co.uk/jetsurvey/
Take with a huge grain of salt. Twice daily.
Also read "Importing Diversity:Inside the JET Program" by David McConnell, for info on history and case studies etc . Available on Amazon. |
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dtomchek
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 135
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Hey:
Well, if you go JET, it will not be until next year...apps come out in September...also depends upon placement...I make 330000 Yen per month and only have 11000 Yen in rent...no car...very little work (only 1-3 classes per day) so it is really easy and a lot of money ...I am leaving after 2 years as I think it is time...you cannot go wrong with JET as it is more money for less work that any private company which usually offers 250,000-280,000 Yen for more work.
It is just a pain to get into! GOOD LUCK!!! |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:22 am Post subject: |
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The pay will almost certainly be higher on JET (but bear in mind that's mainly because you'll be required to pay into national pension and health insurance schemes, the former of which you can partially reclaim when you leave Japan), and there are more perks generally (e.g. flights to and from home country paid, substantial assistance with accomodation, much of which has been set up and running smoothly for years already); remember also that there are orientations and a sizeable JET community to be found (potentially good for socializing, information, and networking), especially if you end up working in or near a larger town or city.
Dispatch companies, on the other hand, have if anything been reducing wages (in an attempt to outbid competitors) - there might not be any assistance with accomodation, and probably none with flights - and you will probably be under a fair bit more "pressure" from your company and the "customers" (the cash-strapped local government guys), especially the former, to act professionally at all times (perhaps there'll be set school times and a formal dress code, whereas JETs can often get by with rolling in late or leaving early, in casual clothes).
I've worked in both types of job, and the JET position was by far the more preferable...that being said, you sometimes hear of lousy host institutions and people not having a very good time on JET (location also has a lot to do with it, and it's a bit of a lottery, much moreso than with dispatch companies, because at least with dispatch companies they advertise positions in specific areas), so even if you won't be pleasantly surprised with a dispatch company, at least you hopefully won't be drastically and UNpleasantly surprised!
Regarding the actual job itself, the duties and expectations are pretty similar (you work in public highschools for both JET and dispatchers), although as I said above, things may be a bit more laid-back on JET, especially if you live in the area and can socialize more easily with the teachers after school. Bear in mind also that dispatch companies may expect (ask or offer) you to do extra work, potentially in eikaiwa-style settings, if you have days that are not scheduled at a school, and you may find yourself being paid by the day and with no paid leave at all if you are ill or want to take a holiday during term time (sucks I know, but at least with such an arrangement with a dispatch company, you won't have to report to the local government's education office every day during school holidays just to justify being paid the fixed juicy JET monthly salary).
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:24 am Post subject: |
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dtomchek: I thought that JETs who taught so few classes and were overall not busy would be moved around to help out at other schools in addition to their own. (At least that's what my friend who's on JET told me). |
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dtomchek
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 135
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Hey,
well, I do not know what goes on in different areas. I know here, we are each assigned different schools. I have 5 schools to go to. 2 Jr. Highs and 3 elementary schools. I am scheduled to go to a school on a given day and I go. Today, I had no classes. Next Tuesday, I have 5 classes (though this is unheard of in the 2 years that I have been here). But a JET always goes to the same 3 or 5 or 7 schools and only 1 school per day whether they have anything for you to do or not. At least that is how it works here.
Stay Genki |
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gazzby
Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:57 am Post subject: |
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Do all the teachers in the Jet program teach the same curriculum? Who provides it? I have heard that some teachers have to make various curricula as they are given insufficient, irrelevant, and/or difficult material to work with. Is this true? |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 4672 Location: Western Japan
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: |
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gazzby wrote: |
Do all the teachers in the Jet program teach the same curriculum? |
No, because what the ALTs teach on the JET program is not part of the official curriculum for what students need to study for their university entrance exams. the ALT class is like a "side dish" to the Japanese English teachers class, and what you teach in the class depends on the use that the JTE wants to put you to in the lesson, which can be anything from you being a human tape recorder, to carrying out lessons developed in conjunction with the JTE (Japanese teacher of English) and you developing classes on your own. The cooperation you get from the JTE can vary widely (from non-existent to very cooperative and enthusiastic) so everyones experience is different. There is no central curriculum that everyone uses for conversation classes. the Ministry of education sets guidelines for the JET program but actual interpretation and implementation is left up to individual headmasters and teachers.
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Who provides it? I have heard that some teachers have to make various curricula as they are given insufficient, irrelevant, and/or difficult material to work with. Is this true? |
As mentioned above the school may want students to be able to do certain things with English such as basic greetings, be able to say simple sentences and carry out simple tasks using English. Its your job to provide a role model of what real authentic English sounds like.
The main course is the Japanese teachers Englsih class which is taught mostly in Japanese, and you may be called on to read out passages in English or provide a model dialog. In general what you teach students in a communicative lesson will bear no relation to what the teacher will teach in his class. he will be teaching grammar, translation of English sentences in to japanese, while in your part of the lesson you might be teaching self intoductions and greetings. What is relevant will depend on the goal of the lesson. To the Japanese teacher, learning spoken English is not relevant to the goals of getting students to pass the entrance examination, and most of what they study is way above their level of comprehension and acquisition. It would be as if your 10th grade | | |