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writpetition · Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 213

I wonder if EF hires non-natives. Methinks, I, a 'nonnative' (without the right passport and with the wrong parentage) might stand a good chance of finding employment there with all this great publicity that the organization is enjoying!

EF's are welcome to post their invitation here, if they would like me to teach at their school. In case, they're too shy to do so, they can have their off'als pm me.

I solemnly declare my allegiance to any EF franchisee that will hire me. I also solemnly swear that nothing negative about them will escape any of my orifices.

I will uphold their every motto and maintain an undying faith in the credo of EF*c*ed!

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898

writpetition · Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 213

OK le...

Devil,

Tell me what you will pay for my sole soul? If it's less than a teacher's salary, please don't even try!

PS: Before you make the offer, remember, I have just one soul and you need many assouls!

writpetition · Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 213

A question for God, before the Devil claims my soul:

His Name's no Currency

Your name's no currency, lord
and I got debts to pay,
have I been a fool then lord,
to meditate and to pray?

We endure our pains, live tortured lives,
hoping justice will prevail -
the cycle goes endlessly on
till faith and goodness fails.

People that I owe money
have their obligations too,
In my becoming insolvent
others suffer too.

I have no understanding of your laws,
can't fathom the games you play -
in your doing what you have done,
there must be a better way.

Laws of karma, laws divine -
assuming that we have erred,
are they superior to you,
can they not be deferred?

You're the maker of such laws,
you're the maker of men,
if those laws be full of flaws,
will you not change them then?

And, yes, EFers can bid, too!

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898

OK this has nothing to do with EF but I got an e-mail earlier from some 19 year old Chinese Canadian who was asking ME for teaching job in Dalian. Apparently he's been teaching for a year. He was born in China and went to Canada when he was two.

My question is, how the hell did he even get a job with just a highschool education (not to mention the fact that he was BORN in China)? Unless he graduated from highschool at 16 and got a college diploma by 18? When I pointed out that according to his credentials his chances of getting a teaching job in China is as good as nil, he called me a "f*cking b*tch". Shocked

China is SO screwed up sometimes.

writpetition · Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 213

Tw, how does it matter where the poor bloke was born? I mean, it might matter to those tunnelvisioned recruiters that pass as FAO's and recruiters etc., but...? Yes, I know, there are other issues in question as well, but those are best answered by the one that mailed you.

Well, I kinda adore China, so I'll stop short of saying, it's screwed...but, yes, there are things that need a change...

Cheers!

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898

nolefan · Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 1458 Location: on the run

EF does hire non-natives and I know of many French, Deutch, German and even Russian teachers working for their various offices. Try your luck at the Dalian branch of EF as they seem desperate for anyone at the moment.

writpetition · Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 213

Yes, tw, but having lived in Canada for about 16 years (I hope I got that right), I'd imagine, he'd have a Candian passport.

Teaching English (or the ability to do so), an international language that is spoken by people from different parts of the world, has nothing to do with so-called 'nativity'. I can do a darned good job of it, and did it, too, for a time. And, I'm not 'native'!

But, that's another story (yes, yes, purists might balk at my use of 'and' and 'but' at the beginning of a sentence. But, that's life!

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898

dajiang · Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 663 Location: Guilin!

EF does hire non-native speakers.
I couldve worked in Suzhou 2003, but took back my old job instead so I never ended up there anyway. They didn't mind my nationality anyway.
I did have a telephone interview first, to see if I knew what I would be doing.
I don't know about Asians though.

However, as a Canadian with Chinese ancestry he would just be a Canadian right? Like the other poster said, he'd have a Canadian passport and he speaks English as his first language.

I did hear somewhere that overseas Chinese are always considered Chinese at the core, and they have the possibility to become Chinese citizens if they would want to. They could stay at 'Chinese only' hotels too, where I would be sent away.

Dajiang

tw · Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 3898

Babala · Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Henan

writpetition,
Why are you having so much trouble finding a job. I realize that most schools want a native English speaker but there are plenty of schools who hire non-natives. Where in China do you want to live?

writpetition · Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 213

Babala,

Trouble? Yes!

I guess, I need to take part of the 'blame'. I don't apply for jobs at private/training schools. I prefer working at a university and one that pays at leask 5K (because I need that much at the very least).

This, of course, is part of the story to which there's another...

But, I'm neither losing hope nor calling it quits (the OP here was satirical more than anything else, as you might have noticed)!

Cheers!