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aisha

i'm hoping to go to itto and what i was wondering is would it be better to take the course in may and try to find a job in june or would it be best to wait until after summer to find a job, like in august for example?

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Not many schools hire in June. The summer months are downtime.

Wouter · Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 128 Location: Tlaquepaque

I have no idea what low season is for finding a job. We have a school where we teach spanish and english and for this reason know that the summer vacation for the schools in Mexico are from around 27 of June till the 19th of August. For us this means extra people because we organize summer courses. I dont know what other schools do. Can imagine that the bigger ones are closed as well.

Are you planning for next year by the way?

Wouter

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Most language schools organize summer courses--specifically because they have considerably fewer regular students then, and they do not want to to reduce their teachers' hours. Wouter's is the first one I have heard about that hires folks to staff them.

At the Harmon Hall I directed, I paid the teachers double for their hours spent teaching the special summer courses--as we did NOT have a downtime, and their teaching those courses was above and beyond the call of duty. I also gave them volunteer teachers' aides--kids 11 to 13 who had already completed the TOEFL course--to run interference with the children.

K-12 type schools also do not hire in June--they start up again in August.

Wouter · Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 128 Location: Tlaquepaque

As a reply to moonraven. Our course start every 10 weeks so we have a course going during the holidays. To get some extra students in we organise summer courses. For this reason we need extra teachers for this period.

Wouter

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

You going to give those "extra teachers" documents and salary guarantees so that they can get FM-3s--or is this just an under the table and out the door caper?

My money says it's the latter.

Wouter · Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 128 Location: Tlaquepaque

The summer vacations are only for two months and with a maximum of two extra hours a day so even if you wanted to you wouldnt get an FM3. Also I dont think they you would get one because there is a minimum you have to earn to get a FM3 as far as I know. I dont think with these amount of hours and the money you would make, you will get an FM3.

To get an FM3 will take you about a month. Mine took even longer. Why should you aply for an FM3, which cost you 2600 pesos, when you salary will be for two hours a day for two months 3600 pesos.

You wrote FM-3s. I'm not familiar with all versions of a FM3. Could you tell me where the "s" stands for?

Wouter

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

S usually indicates pluralization. In this case as well. You said teachers. Plural. I asked if they would be given FM-3s. Plural. So that they would be working legally. I had bet that they would not be working legally. And I was right.

Your analysis proves my point. These are not real jobs. Folks will be paid a pittance under the table, and then booted out the door.

I don't think you should be touting illegal employment and other rip-offs here on Dave's.

Incidentally, could you tell me where you learned English?

Wouter · Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 128 Location: Tlaquepaque

Hi moonraven,

Thank you for your reply. Could you tell me if it is possible to provide a teacher with a FM3 for two months. I actually have no idea.

I think this are jobs. Some people are actually looking for this jobs because they only have two months or less. At the moment we have one that only good teach for a month.

Often we have teachers with not much experience and we observe their classes and than sit in together to go over the stuff they did. Till now we never had a not happy teacher. I must say this is the first year that we opened.

We never "booted" teachers out of the door. Even teachers that visit us searching for a job we help with lists from schools or websites where they can search. We have one teacher that teaches here for more than six months.

I'm curious how many teachers work in Mexico and have an FM3. Most of the schools dont provide a FM3 when your not working longer than 3 months and i guess there are a lot of teachers that travel from place to place and dont stay longer than 3 months with a job.

My English I learned at my school in Holland where I come from. Maybe not the best English but I bet it is better than your dutch.

Wouter